# What happens on the track day, stays on the track day. **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [July 29, 2009, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760 "2009-07-29T08:58:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/1 "2009-07-29T08:58:59Z")
Unless you post up the video. :lol I’ve been having lots of computer issues on my end recently so I’m throwing up a rough video edit of what happened. YouTube apparently didn’t care for me spending a few hours getting the right music for the video and matching it perfectly with the crash :rofl so pick a favorite song on the HD and play it. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/2 "2009-07-29T09:01:38Z")
No audio makes me rage. ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/3 "2009-07-29T09:03:29Z")
I think you should take it easy on turns ---
**Author:** ![Mike3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike3/32/6350_2.png) [@Mike3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike3)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/4 "2009-07-29T09:03:35Z")
back tire just wash out on you? or were you on the gas and spun it? ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/5 "2009-07-29T09:03:43Z")
ooo how’d that feel ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/6 "2009-07-29T09:09:57Z")
> [@WTB: GSR CRANK](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-gsr-crank/21004/5): > > I think you should take it easy on turns I can’t help it, they keep sneaking up on me. Maybe I shouldn’t post the second video of the same day on the other bike :lol > [@this cant be very good... Person2Person lending](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-cant-be-very-good-person2person-lending/20974/7): > > back tire just wash out on you? or were you on the gas and spun it? I was running out of revs coming up that hill and went to shift, even being smooth I assumed I upset the suspension enough for the rear to become lighter and wash out. It wasn’t a typical loss of traction where you spin first, try to regain and then lose it. This was just in-your-face-instant _BAM_. I’ll most likely end up going with a moto GP shift on the bike to make shifting in turns a lot smoother as well. Reaching under the pedal when you’re leaned over isn’t the best way of doing it. I was on the gas lighter then I was during the run in the dry, but I just may have been too heavy. But like I said, it wasn’t loss of traction that lead to loss of balance, it seems like it was instant loss of balance. :ponder ---
**Author:** ![Mike3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike3/32/6350_2.png) [@Mike3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike3)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/7 "2009-07-29T09:33:55Z")
Yea that looked pretty instant haha. Looked like it didn’t hurt too bad though? ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/8 "2009-07-29T09:44:02Z")
Oof. If that was caused by the shift (no audio), we obviously have the same problem in cars on track in the wet where you suddenly cant shift where you used to. Cliche: Did you get back on the horse? ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/9 "2009-07-29T09:46:55Z")
Vlad and I have both slid into guard rails and got back on the horse once before. Why wouldn’t he again? ---
**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/10 "2009-07-29T10:35:26Z")
LOL damn vlad !, didnt look to bad atleast u didnt go around flipping and u got a cage on that bike ---
**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/11 "2009-07-29T11:25:11Z")
To be honest, the incident had more to do with a brand new set of tires with almost 0 miles on them running on a wet track. If it was a dry track, things might have turned out differently. In case people are wondering, the incident happened at turn 7. ![http://www.tonystrackdays.com/custom/images/track-images/TTD_Group_Rules_2009-2.JPG](http://www.tonystrackdays.com/custom/images/track-images/TTD_Group_Rules_2009-2.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![Neo187H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@Neo187H](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neo187H)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/12 "2009-07-29T12:23:16Z")
I thought this happened on the SV? You went down on the FIRST lap out in the rain? Take it easy on NEW AND COLD tires dumbshit. =P I thought you had at least had the common sense to break in the tires and let them warm up before falling over :lol ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/13 "2009-07-29T13:39:47Z")
Tires were scrubbed in from previous sessions, follow the leader, first red and first yellow, may have cooled down between the runs, and I have slowed down from the dry as you’ve seen in the other video. Jclark brings up a good point ad I distingle remember shifting right before the washout. The SV happened in turn 2, as soon as I put pressure on the outside peg. ---
**Author:** ![Neo187H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@Neo187H](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neo187H)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/14 "2009-07-29T17:13:38Z")
Alright so your tires were scrubbed, either way though you were running on a cold tire in the wet. A cold bike tire has no where near the capabilities of a warm one, how many times have you had the bike slide around at parking lot speeds on cold pavement? I know you have told me about at least one time you have actually dropped it from the same thing, so trying to push the bike on cold tires would be the same concept. But yes upsetting the suspension with your shift was prob the straw that broke the camels back. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/15 "2009-07-29T18:32:01Z")
Pilot powers have very very good heat retention even in cold (winter temps), the one time my tire slid out on me that you’ve mentioned was a very crappy metzler that never stuck to begin with and it was on a 30 degree night right after I took off. What still baffles me is how instant it was, I’ve never even had the chance to recover. The instructor told me I was running at the limit of the tire the entire run in the dry that’s why he wanted to follow me to give me hints before I ran out of tire. > [@OFFICIAL Buffalo Sabres Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-buffalo-sabres-thread/25170/1635): > > Yea that looked pretty instant haha. Looked like it didn’t hurt too bad though? Didn’t hurt one bit, as a matter a fact it was the most cushy crash I’ve ever had :lol When you’re covered from head to toe in gear you feel like you can stop a bullet, but going to the bathroom presents an issue of epic proportions. That fall was at about 60mph if not faster but the only thing going through my mind was “Really? REALLY? Ooooooh there’s my bike” :rofl > [@WNYFBody stolen...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/309): > > Oof. > > If that was caused by the shift (no audio), we obviously have the same problem in cars on track in the wet where you suddenly cant shift where you used to. > > Cliche: Did you get back on the horse? Yep right back on the backup pony just to have that one trip over itself as well. > [@FJ cruiser opinions](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fj-cruiser-opinions/20948/14): > > LOL damn vlad !, didnt look to bad atleast u didnt go around flipping and u got a cage on that bike No cage allowed on the track… ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/16 "2009-07-29T19:16:37Z")
Oh yeah, totally forgot: HOW WAS IT? When are you gonig back again? Summit Point next time?! ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/17 "2009-07-30T19:23:27Z")
> [@Sabres Vs. Tampa IN TAMPA! 12.5.06](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sabres-vs-tampa-in-tampa-12-5-06/19229/25): > > Oh yeah, totally forgot: HOW WAS IT? When are you gonig back again? Summit Point next time?! It was fantastic no matter what happened. I’m still excited about a car track day, but judging just by basic logistics I see how it won’t be as much fun. Being the bikes makes it a lot more personal where it’s the other guy that’s clearly in front of you and you can watch his form and touch his tail instead of just being a car in front of you. A lot more room to move around as well and the extra danger is always a plus, since let’s face it, we all like that element of racing. I’m thinking Thunderbolt next time, but I’m entertained to offers. Looks like I’ll take it easy and be done for this season, and just come out better prepped and more financially stable for next year to attend more :thumb ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/18 "2009-07-30T19:33:50Z")
Big statement and a big guess for never having done it. Respectfully disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/19 "2009-07-30T19:41:53Z")
That’s fine, but last I heard you contemplated on joining the two wheel fun on the track :tongue ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760/20 "2009-07-30T19:44:30Z")
I have plans to in early 2010, but you dont see me making assumptions about it before I do. :tongue [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-on-the-track-day-stays-on-the-track-day/245760.md?page=2)