# What hybrid car should I buy?

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [January 1, 2014, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400 "2014-01-01T14:47:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![lorge1989](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lorge1989/32/6153_2.png) [@lorge1989](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lorge1989)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/21 "2014-01-02T06:02:51Z")

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1st gen, MT, Honda Insight. Friend of mine has one, gets like 70MPG min. Its cool in a funky way, probably would suit you well. 🙂

> [@Coldaccord](#):
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> I get about 48mpg city 55mpg highway on average. Even short, cold winter trips pull 35mpg+.

I thought the numbers woud be a bit better than this to be honest. A MK4 TDI would be much better MPG wise, at least on par. Cost more to run, but still I thought the Prius was more of a clear cut winner.

My TDI averages 32-36 combined in the winter, nearly all of my trips are less than 10 miles.

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**Author:** ![Bakes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bakes/32/7469_2.png) [@Bakes](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bakes)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/22 "2014-01-02T06:18:08Z")

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> [@lorge1989](#):
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> 1st gen, MT, Honda Insight. Friend of mine has one, gets like 70MPG min. Its cool in a funky way, probably would suit you well. 🙂

Tough to find though, I rarely see any of these around.

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/23 "2014-01-02T06:32:56Z")

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Lots of good info there dre! Plus both sets of my Jetta wheels will bolt to a Prius with hubcentric rings… I think we have a clear winner here. If anyone wants a killer deal on a 1.8t Jetta in the spring, bring your own wheels…

my wife is incapable of driving 5 speed, plus at this point I’d rather have an auto DD. I’m old and boring. My civic will be done in spring and be 6 speed though 🙂

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**Author:** ![lorge1989](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lorge1989/32/6153_2.png) [@lorge1989](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lorge1989)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/24 "2014-01-02T07:10:26Z")

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> [@Jam](#):
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> My civic will be done in spring and be 6 speed though 🙂

I don’t believe you.

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**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/25 "2014-01-02T07:25:37Z")

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> [@lorge1989](#):
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> I don’t believe you.

+1

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**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/26 "2014-01-02T08:49:04Z")

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2010 or 2011 insight. way cheaper than a 3rd gen prius and newer than a 2nd gen. gets close to prius mpg too.

I bought mine last year. I saved 6k vs a 2010 prius with similar mileage and have a cpo warranty until 100k or 2017

it would take me ~30 years driving the prius to reclaim that 6k saved in the purchase price. (I average 43 mpg year round average and I hear the prius could do around 50)

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**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/27 "2014-01-02T12:18:44Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Whats the average life time on the batteries in the Prius?

There is no real end to their “life time” so to speak. We’ve had Prii with upwards of 200k still riding fine on the factory battery. The only deterrent is they don’t like to sit for extended periods of time, as the cells discharge. They are re-charged through driving, so the car is pretty self sustaining.

I have seen MANY Prii at auctions throughout the country with 350,000+ miles. It’s almost a regular occurrence to see in the midwest.

They burn cleaner, oil looks better when changed, etc. You’re splitting the load between two motors instead of just one, and the electric motor has less moving parts than an internal combustion engine. ICE has a timing chain as well, no tbelt.

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**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/28 "2014-01-02T12:25:05Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> I did not see a traction control button. The controls were totally foreign to me, the defrost button was on the steering wheel, WTF? The little back and little side windows seemed pretty silly too. Nothing in the car was driver intuitive, maybe my rage had something to do with it. 🙂

You can’t turn off the traction control on a Prius.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/29 "2014-01-02T12:43:48Z")

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These steps must be completed within 60 seconds.

Step 1: Set the ignition switch to ON, not READY. To do this press the power button two times, without pressing the brake pedal.

Step 2: While the transmission is still in park §, fully press the gas pedal two times.

Step 3: Apply the parking brake to ensure that the vehicle will not move during this step. Put the transmission in neutral (N) and fully press the gas pedal two times.

Step 4: Put the transmission back in park § and fully press the gas pedal two times. The car will display “!Car!” in the upper left corner of the LCD screen.

Step 5: Press the brake pedal and turn the ignition switch to the start position, without going back to the ready position, to start the engine.

If these steps are followed correctly, the vehicle will start with the traction control system defeated.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/30 "2014-01-02T12:48:18Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> These steps must be completed within 60 seconds.
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> Step 1: Set the ignition switch to ON, not READY. To do this press the power button two times, without pressing the brake pedal.
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> Step 2: While the transmission is still in park (P), fully press the gas pedal two times.
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> Step 3: Apply the parking brake to ensure that the vehicle will not move during this step. Put the transmission in neutral (N) and fully press the gas pedal two times.
> 
> Step 4: Put the transmission back in park (P) and fully press the gas pedal two times. The car will display “!Car!” in the upper left corner of the LCD screen.
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> Step 5: Press the brake pedal and turn the ignition switch to the start position, without going back to the ready position, to start the engine.
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> If these steps are followed correctly, the vehicle will start with the traction control system defeated.

Followed by more disappointment because you just disabled traction control on the lamest car ever.

Edit: And before one of you MPG loving hippies says something I like a number of other hybrid cars but after using one of these for a couple weeks as a rental it was the most boring, lamest, unfun, and ugly car ever.

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**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/31 "2014-01-02T12:52:11Z")

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> [@Justin](#):
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> TDI would be my first recommendation. No need for a vehicle with costly battery amd transmission issues. But if a Hybrid is a must, you must talk to Andre (coldaccord). He will have all the answers and can likely get you exactly what you are looking for. But once again… In my honest experienced opinion… buy a TDI.

We have a TDI and a Prius, and the Prius is hands down better for fuel economy, where as the TDI is nicer in everything else. Average year round mpg on the TDI is 38 or so, where as the Prius in the same area is 46 mpg. Warranty covers the Prius batteries until 300k (I think), and it takes 87 octane. It’s a nice car, just boring and sloppy to drive.

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/32 "2014-01-02T13:46:31Z")

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> [@Justin](#):
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> I am not spreading bad information. I have first hand experience with Civic transmission shudder on all 3 Civic hybrids that I have driven, all owned by family of mine. Also I have heard that Honda had a class action law suit against them for batteries failing so quickly, and that even after they were fixed 1 in 5 owners had to replace them again in the first 12 months.  
> These sound like battery and transmission issues to me. That being said, it is now irrelevant. Andre has spoken. 2nd gen Prius appears to be the clear winner here.

sorry, i just assumed that everyone knew they are a big fail. i love Honda’s but i wouldnt recommend a civic hybrid to my worst enemy.

theres a reason the prius outsells all other hybrids combined

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/33 "2014-01-02T16:31:45Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> These steps must be completed within 60 seconds.
> 
> Step 1: Set the ignition switch to ON, not READY. To do this press the power button two times, without pressing the brake pedal.
> 
> Step 2: While the transmission is still in park (P), fully press the gas pedal two times.
> 
> Step 3: Apply the parking brake to ensure that the vehicle will not move during this step. Put the transmission in neutral (N) and fully press the gas pedal two times.
> 
> Step 4: Put the transmission back in park (P) and fully press the gas pedal two times. The car will display “!Car!” in the upper left corner of the LCD screen.
> 
> Step 5: Press the brake pedal and turn the ignition switch to the start position, without going back to the ready position, to start the engine.
> 
> If these steps are followed correctly, the vehicle will start with the traction control system defeated.

LMFAO!.. Wait… you are being serious?

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**Author:** ![albaaboog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71c47a/32.png) [@albaaboog](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/albaaboog)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/34 "2014-01-02T16:44:55Z")

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This pretty much sums it up

Sorry I could not find a good quality video but you get the point.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/35 "2014-01-02T18:34:15Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> LMFAO!.. Wait… you are being serious?

I’ve been using the up up down down left right left right b a select start method.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/36 "2014-01-02T18:50:16Z")

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What about leasing a Chevy Volt? Sure, it’s more $$$ for the car payment, but with barely any gas costs and $1.42/day in electricity, perhaps the budget will allow for a new car, rather than an older Prius?

I guess it all depends on how many miles a day you’ll use the Prius for. When considering a Volt, it’s not just looking at the car payment, but also including fuel costs in the decision, as well as Electric range before the engine kicks on.

I’ve had mine for almost 6 months now. I can help you decide if a Volt would make sense to your driving styles and needs… let me know…

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/37 "2014-01-02T19:51:13Z")

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> [@Clean Baldy](#):
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> What about leasing a Chevy Volt? Sure, it’s more $$$ for the car payment, but with barely any gas costs and $1.42/day in electricity, perhaps the budget will allow for a new car, rather than an older Prius?
> 
> I guess it all depends on how many miles a day you’ll use the Prius for. When considering a Volt, it’s not just looking at the car payment, but also including fuel costs in the decision, as well as Electric range before the engine kicks on.
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> I’ve had mine for almost 6 months now. I can help you decide if a Volt would make sense to your driving styles and needs… let me know…

I was going to ask about these. Where does the volt land in the world of hybrids? It seems like to correct combo to me with one alteration… a DIESEL not a gas generator.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/38 "2014-01-02T19:56:11Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> LMFAO!.. Wait… you are being serious?

you don’t think I just made all that up do you?

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/39 "2014-01-02T20:35:16Z")

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I vote for the Eagle HammerHead I Thrust or Geoff as it was first coined.

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-hybrid-car-should-i-buy/234400/40 "2014-01-03T10:42:23Z")

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> [@Clean Baldy](#):
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> What about leasing a Chevy Volt? Sure, it’s more $$$ for the car payment, but with barely any gas costs and $1.42/day in electricity, perhaps the budget will allow for a new car, rather than an older Prius?
> 
> I guess it all depends on how many miles a day you’ll use the Prius for. When considering a Volt, it’s not just looking at the car payment, but also including fuel costs in the decision, as well as Electric range before the engine kicks on.
> 
> I’ve had mine for almost 6 months now. I can help you decide if a Volt would make sense to your driving styles and needs… let me know…

the price difference alone would take way to long to make up for with the additonal fuel economy

i just looked into it with my prius gen 3, buying out the lease was cheaper by far than leasing or buying a new volt

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