# What if 20 Million illegals left America?
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**Created:** [January 29, 2008, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503 "2008-01-29T08:49:52Z")
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2008, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/1 "2008-01-29T08:49:52Z")
Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a
column titled, ‘Mexican Visitor’s Lament’ – 10/25/07.
She interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while
visiting Denver last week. Hernandez said, ‘They (illegal aliens) pay rent,
buy groceries, buy clothes…What Happens to your country’s economy if 20
million people go away?’ That’s a good question - it deserves an answer.
Over 80 percent of Americans demand secured borders and illegal migration
stopped. But what would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America?
The answers may surprise you!
In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico,
it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems,
bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner,
safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another as English
became the dominant language again.
In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and
grand-kids - would move back ‘home’, mostly to Mexico. That would save
Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 billion) annually
in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration
costs. It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.
Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the
terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver
Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered
death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals.
Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67 percent
drop-out/flunk-out rate because of thousands of illegal alien students
speaking 41 different languages. At least 200,000 vehicles would vanish from
our gridlocked cities in Colorado.
Denver’s four percent unemployment rate would vanish as our working
poor would gain jobs at a living wage.
In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State
back to America, the rule of law, and English.
In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals,
schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free
experience.
If 20 million illegal aliens returned ‘home’ –
If 20 million illegal aliens returned ‘home’, the U.S. Economy would
return to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal American citizens at a
living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because they
wouldn’t be working off the books. That would result in an additional $401
Billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an equal amount for
local, state and city coffers.
No more push ‘1’ for Spanish or ‘2’ for English. No more confusion
in American schools that now must contend with over 100 languages that
degrade the educational system for American kids. Our overcrowded schools
would lose more than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of billions in
ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.
We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of
more than $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members who
distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country.
In cities like L.A., 20,000 members of the ‘18th Street Gang’ would
vanish from our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs for ID theft from
Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!
Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded
highways and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and driving American
deaths by illegal aliens!
America’s economy is drained. Taxpayers are harmed. Employers get
rich. Over $80 billion annually wouldn’t return to the aliens’ home
countries by cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money
untaxed, which further drains America’s economy - which currently suffers an
$8.7 trillion debt.
At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country,
costing us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals in
California, Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being
bankrupt out of existence because illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act.
Americans wouldn’t suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases
rampant in our country-brought in by illegals unscreened at our borders.
Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and
grid locking our cities. It would also put the ‘progressives’ on the horns
of a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11 percent of our
greenhouse gases.
Over one million of Mexico’s poorest citizens now live inside and
along our border from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego, California in what
the New York Times called, ‘colonias’ or new neighborhoods. Trouble is,
those living areas resemble Bombay and Calcutta where grinding poverty,
filth, diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live without
sewage, clean water, streets, elec tricity, roads or any kind of sanitation.
The New York Times reported them to be America’s new ‘Third World’ inside
our own country. Within 20 years, at their current growth rate, they expect
20 million residents of those colonias. (I’ve seen them personally in Texas
and Arizona; it’s sickening beyond anything you can imagine.) By enforcing
our laws, we could repatriate them back to Mexico.
We should invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own
countries and/or make a better life in Mexico. We already invite a million
people into our country legally more than all other countries combined
annually. We cannot and must not allow anarchy at our borders, more anarchy
within our borders and growing lawlessness at every level in our nation.
It’s time to stand up for our country, our culture, our civilization and our
way of life.
Interesting Statistics. Here are 14 reasons illegal aliens should
vacate America, and I hope they are forwarded over and over again until they
are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them:
1. $11 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on welfare
to illegal aliens. [http://tinyurl.com/zob77](http://tinyurl.com/zob77)
2. $2.2 billion dollars are spent each year on food assistance
programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal
aliens. [http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html](http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html)
3. $2.5 billion dollars are spent each year on Medicaid for illegal
aliens. [http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html](http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html)
4. $12 billion dollars are spent each year on primary and secondary
school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
English! [http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html](http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html)
5. $17 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the
American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
[http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html](http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html)
6. $3 Million Dollars PER DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal
aliens. [http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html](http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html)
7. 30% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.
[http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html](http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html)
8. $90 bill ion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for
welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
[http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...29/ldt.01.html](http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...29/ldt.01.html)
9. $200 billion dollars per year in suppressed American wages are
caused by the illegal aliens.
[http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html](http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html)
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s
two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their
children, are going to make a huge additional crime probl em in the US.
[http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...12/ldt.01.html](http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...12/ldt.01.html)
11. During the year 2005, there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens
that crossed our southern border with as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from
terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine,
and marijuana crossed into the U.S. from the southern border.
[http://tinyurl.com/t9sht](http://tinyurl.com/t9sht)
12. The National Policy Institute, estimates that the total cost of
mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion, or an average cost
of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.& nbsp;
[http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o](http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o)…?b=deportation
13. In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances
back to their countries of origin. [http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm](http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm)
14. The dark side of illegal immigration: Nearly one million sex
crimes are committed by illegal immigrants in the United States!’
[http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml](http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml)
**The total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!!!**
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### Author:  [@JRubino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JRubino)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2008, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/2 "2008-01-29T09:03:00Z")
Rally em up and ship the fuck outta here!
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### Author:  [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2008, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/3 "2008-01-29T09:06:24Z")
werd, take all the illegal russians too!!!
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### Author:  [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2008, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/4 "2008-01-29T09:08:18Z")
we should make the worlds largest air-locking airplane in wyoming, put signs up all over the us asking for labor to build said airplane, under the table of course, they all flood to said airplane, build it, then we shove em all in and ship im to mexico all the while building a giant titanium bubble encapsulating the united states, who needs natural sunlight anyway? we can grow indoors :nod
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### Author:  [@timmay](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/timmay)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2008, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/5 "2008-01-29T11:11:08Z")
Its an interesting point of view, like with any group there are a few rotten potatoes that stink up the whole bushel. A lot illegals perform jobs at insanely low wages that American citizens will not replicate, so the price to the consumer will go up dramatically if they vanished. Do you really think for a second that the Government will return the savings of these illegals to the American public? Hell no, they would just spend it on some other useless Government fashion, they certainly wouldn’t use it to pay off the deficit, not that it would even begin to put a dent in it. With out drastic change in Government policy the corruption will only continue, the American Citizens attitude toward the illegals is very similar to Germanys feeling towards the jews not long after WWI, they were looking for a scapegoat to allow themselves to ignore facing the truth. We are heading down the same path, what happens if all the illegals are gone and things still are in a poor state of affair? Until we turn that mirror we use so readily on others around and look at ourselves this country will be heading in a very dangerously blind direction. The American problem revolves around the American attitude, its superiority complex and its terrible spending habits(not just the Government, the Citizens as well). With out these changes we can expel all the illegal immigrants and the next day our problems will remain. People follow what they see, they mimic the example placed before them, if the Government had the power to change, the people would follow that example, if it reduced its spending and start treating other nations with respect instead of trying to push them around our perception not only internationally, but nationally would start to change.
Bottom line is that its easy to blame someone else, but they’re not the problem, we are the problem and until more Americans start to realize this, its going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2008, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/6 "2008-01-29T12:26:24Z")
Now I know why Timmay is writing a book. :nod
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### Author:  [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2008, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/7 "2008-01-29T12:31:15Z")
> [@Vovchandr](#):
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> Now I know why Timmay is writing a book. :nod
and now i know why you are russian ;D :ninja
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/8 "2008-01-29T12:36:06Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#):
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> werd, take all the illegal russians too!!!
Erm? :confused
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### Author:  [@Code\_Blue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Code_Blue)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2008, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/9 "2008-01-29T23:16:18Z")
> [@K-20power](#):
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> > [@Vovchandr](#):
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> > Now I know why Timmay is writing a book. :nod
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> and now i know why you are russian ;D :ninja
no offense, but what the fuck is that supposed to mean?
the article wasn’t referring to people who legally come over here, and work their fucking ass off to be a citizen. If half the bullshit ass, lazy, useless fucks we know as americans worked as hard as “russians” did, this fucking country wouldn’t be the giant pile of shit it is now.
In all of the world we must harbor some of the most arrogant, defiant piece of shit youth ever.
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### Author:  [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2008, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/10 "2008-01-30T04:10:08Z")
> [@Code Blue](#):
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> > [@K-20power](#):
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> > > [@Vovchandr](#):
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> > > Now I know why Timmay is writing a book. :nod
> >
> > and now i know why you are russian ;D :ninja
>
> no offense, but what the fuck is that supposed to mean?
>
> the article wasn’t referring to people who legally come over here, and work their fucking ass off to be a citizen. If half the bullshit ass, lazy, useless fucks we know as americans worked as hard as “russians” did, this fucking country wouldn’t be the giant pile of shit it is now.
>
> **In all of the world we must harbor some of the most arrogant, defiant piece of shit youth ever.**
two words:
russian skinheads.
would you like me to post some videos?
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### Author:  [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2008, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/11 "2008-01-30T04:15:25Z")
> [@Code Blue](#):
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> > [@K-20power](#):
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> > > [@Vovchandr](#):
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> > > Now I know why Timmay is writing a book. :nod
> >
> > and now i know why you are russian ;D :ninja
>
> no offense, but what the fuck is that supposed to mean?
>
> the article wasn’t referring to people who legally come over here, and work their fucking ass off to be a citizen. If half the bullshit ass, lazy, useless fucks we know as americans worked as hard as “russians” did, this fucking country wouldn’t be the giant pile of shit it is now.
>
> In all of the world we must harbor some of the most arrogant, defiant piece of shit youth ever.
relax big tough military guy it was a joke no need for your hissy fits.
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### Author:  [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2008, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/12 "2008-01-30T05:55:05Z")
> [@Code Blue](#):
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> If half the bullshit ass, lazy, useless fucks we know as americans worked as hard as “russians” did, this fucking country wouldn’t be the giant pile of shit it is now.
…watch it, bud
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### Author:  [@Fn\_Skanks](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fn_Skanks)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2008, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/13 "2008-01-30T08:38:27Z")
i agree with timmay.
the root of the problem lies in the government, and the people that allow all of this to happen.
you also make a great point about the terrible spending that goes on in this country. i see money basically just thrown away every day.
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### Author:  [@silverandslow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2008, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/14 "2008-01-30T08:41:31Z")
It hard for me to take that amount of money seriousl when we spend like 100 million on one airplane. Its also hard for me to take it seriously when Ide like to see the number of people who live here and do nothing and get welfare…I think thats a worse offense.
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2008, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/15 "2008-01-30T08:45:16Z")
> The issue will be hotly debated next week when the Senate takes up a record $106.5 billion emergency spending bill that includes $72.4 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The House passed a $92 billion version of the bill last month that included $68 billion in war funding. That funding comes on top of $50 billion already allocated for the war this fiscal year.
> Thursday, April 20, 2006
> [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/19/AR2006041902594\_pf.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/19/AR2006041902594_pf.html)
The war in Iraq has costs us much much more than that in total, cost us thousands of lives and hundreds of thousands people missing from labor force, and hurting the economy in many many ways.
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### Author:  [@Fn\_Skanks](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fn_Skanks)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2008, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/16 "2008-01-30T08:48:11Z")
> [@silverandslow](#):
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> It hard for me to take that amount of money seriousl when we spend like 100 million on one airplane. Its also hard for me to take it seriously when Ide like to see the number of people who live here and do nothing and get welfare…I think thats a worse offense.
yeah, the messed up part about it is many immigrants in general, get treated better than citizens who have lived here since they were born. just look at some of the b.s. going on with all these government handouts. they get a shitload of help, whereas if i went and applied for assistance, i’d get the run around.
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### Author:  [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2008, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/17 "2008-01-30T08:48:30Z")
> [@silverandslow](#):
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> It hard for me to take that amount of money seriousl when we spend like 100 million on one airplane. Its also hard for me to take it seriously when Ide like to see the number of people who live here and do nothing and get welfare…I think thats a worse offense.
word at least the illegals work and do shit we dont want to do!
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2008, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/18 "2008-01-30T08:50:50Z")
There are no illigal immigrants on welfare /thread
Plus they appreciate being here instead of bitching and moaning, there are civilian populations here which are much worse for the economy then II’s.
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### Author:  [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2008, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/19 "2008-01-30T08:58:16Z")
i’ll tell you one thing that would happen, we wouldnt have to move from one place or another, we would probably still be at kohls
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2008, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-if-20-million-illegals-left-america/235503/20 "2008-01-30T08:59:56Z")
> [@plaf713](#):
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> i’ll tell you one thing that would happen, we wouldnt have to move from one place or another, we would probably still be at kohls
Kohls exists because of cheap and abundant immigrant labor :tong
Plus ontopic, I’m pretty sure those were legal that got us kicked out.
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