# What is Putin thinking? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 11, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301 "2008-02-11T19:11:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/1 "2008-02-11T19:11:25Z")
Send a bomber out to buzz a US aircraft carrier? [http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/11/russian.bomber/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/11/russian.bomber/index.html) After violating Japanese airspace last week resulting in fighters being scrambled. It’s only a matter of time before one of these ancient bombers gets their stupid asses shot down and sets off an international incident. ---
**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/2 "2008-02-11T19:14:43Z")
> **[Tupolev Tu-95](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95)** > > The Tupolev Tu-95 (Russian: Туполев Ту-95; NATO reporting name: "Bear") is a large, four-engine turboprop-powered strategic bomber and missile platform. First flown in 1952, the Tu-95 entered service with the Soviet Union in 1956 and is expected to serve the Russian Air Force until at least 2040. A development of the bomber for maritime patrol is designated Tu-142, while a passenger airliner derivative was called Tu-114. The aircraft has four Kuznetsov NK-12 engines with contra-rotating propeller... ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/3 "2008-02-11T19:15:55Z")
Another cold war could be fun ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/4 "2008-02-11T19:17:06Z")
idk the Tupelov 95’s are pretty fucking sweet… 500mph prop is just awesome BTW Bombers… have long service lifes > The Tu-95 is still in service, as of 2008, and is expected to remain in service with the Russian Air Force until at least 2040.[1] I honestly don’t see them being in service until then, maintenance just gets too hard O and seriously like a top 5 fucking most bad ass bomber. They definitely deserve the respect ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/5 "2008-02-11T19:25:37Z")
i dont see how this is news or how one could take the stand point: “those russians are up to something” Putin can do what he wants. If you dont like it, keep your mouth shut or you get died ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/6 "2008-02-11T19:29:08Z")
Yeah, he can do what he wants, but when it involves buzzing a US carrier and entering other countries airspace in a military aircraft those countries can in turn do what they want, including shooting one down. ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/7 "2008-02-11T20:02:31Z")
He’s playing chess. Along with expanding his sphere of influence he is flexing his military muscle as well. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/8 "2008-02-11T20:18:38Z")
Does russia have a large enough military to go into war? I really dont know what they have anymore…I know pre-cold war they were very powerful but to today’s standards I’m not sure. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/9 "2008-02-12T04:04:12Z")
> [@Carnut](#): > > He’s playing chess. Along with expanding his sphere of influence he is flexing his military muscle as well. And what I’m worried about is that eventually someone is going to take one of his pawns. ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/10 "2008-02-12T04:20:43Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Yeah, he can do what he wants, but when it involves buzzing a US carrier and entering other countries airspace in a military aircraft those countries can in turn do what they want, including shooting one down. The US runs around and does what it wants. Putin feels like poking the Bull once in a while to let it know hes there. Big deal. Its NOT the cold war anymore and the old attitudes and mindset is idiotic. WTF is a lone bomber going to do??? And what about the consequences in case someone thinks it would make a move. Stupid and pointless scenario. Let him flex. Be happy that he only wants to play. ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/11 "2008-02-12T04:21:43Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > And what I’m worried about is that eventually someone is going to take one of his pawns. I HIGHLY doubt that considering typical Russian reaction. ---
**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/12 "2008-02-12T06:23:14Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > Does russia have a large enough military to go into war? I really dont know what they have anymore…I know pre-cold war they were very powerful but to today’s standards I’m not sure. > **[Russian Armed Forces](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military)** > > The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation,\[a\] commonly referred to as the Russian Armed Forces, are the military of Russia. It is organized into three service branches—the Ground Forces, Navy, and Aerospace Forces—two independent combat arms (the Strategic Rocket Forces and Airborne Forces), and the Special Operations Forces Command. > The Russian Armed Forces are the world's fifth largest military force, with 1.15 million active-duty personnel and close to two million reservists. According t... to me they still sound big …in 2005 they moved in 330,000 people into the military :gotme: i think something is going on they spend 32 billion a year in expenditures and ranked 5th in the world and have nuclear weapons…[Russia and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction) also see [Father of All Bombs - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_of_all_bombs) ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/13 "2008-02-12T06:31:49Z")
Well I was about to say “Yeah they have nukes but no delivery system.” > **[RT-2PM2 Topol-M](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topol-M)** > > The RT-2PM2 «Topol-M» (Russian: РТ-2ПМ2 «Тополь-М», NATO reporting name: SS-27 "Sickle B", other designations: SS-27 Mod 1, RS-12M1, RS-12M2, formerly incorrectly RT-2UTTKh) is one of the most recent intercontinental ballistic missiles to be deployed by Russia (see RS-24), and the first to be developed after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. It was developed from the RT-2PM Topol mobile intercontinental ballistic missile. In its Russian designation РТ stands for "ракета твердотопливная", raket... Nope. Me thinks that the next world war will be the last one for about 10,000 years. :ohnoes: ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/14 "2008-02-12T06:32:21Z")
That’s a impressive prop plane. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/15 "2008-02-12T06:37:03Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Me thinks that the next world war will be the last one for about 10,000 years. :ohnoes: “_I know not what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones._” -Albert Einstein ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/16 "2008-02-12T06:48:05Z")
Dude knew his shit. ---
**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/17 "2008-02-12T06:49:52Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Well I was about to say “Yeah they have nukes but no delivery system.” > > [RT-2PM2 Topol-M - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topol-M) > > Nope. > > Me thinks that the next world war will be the last one for about 10,000 years. :ohnoes: looking at the link…do you notice that they did some things in Dec of 07 and Jan of 08 > [@WIki=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topol-M](#): > > Another four silo based Topol-M missiles were put on active service in early january 2008. The total number of active Topol-M (SS-27) missiles is now 54.[[8]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topol-M#_note-7) ---
**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/18 "2008-02-12T06:51:18Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > “_I know not what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones._” -Albert Einstein ha b/c after WW3 there will be nothing left ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/19 "2008-02-12T11:35:17Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Well I was about to say “Yeah they have nukes but no delivery system.” > > [RT-2PM2 Topol-M - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topol-M) > > Nope. > > Me thinks that the next world war will be the last one for about 10,000 years. :ohnoes: Kinda like China…till Clinton gave them one…DOH! ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301/20 "2008-02-12T11:44:01Z")
Based on predictions it will be 2012 when Russia goes cookoo for coko puffs and bombs western Europe (with middle east support). According to snopes it is not true though. Ironic, I watched this earlier today… Cliffs… Russia 5830 active nuke weapons USA 5735 france 350 CHINA 200-250 uk 200 ISRAEL 200 INDIA 45-95 (INCREASING) PAKISTAN 40-50 (INCREASING) N. KOREA 1(?) (INCREASING) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-putin-thinking/43301.md?page=2)