# what is the real son240 now?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079>\
**Category:** SON240sx Off Topic\
**Created:** [June 24, 2007, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079 "2007-06-24T22:12:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![93\_240sex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/e274bd/32.png) [@93\_240sex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93_240sex)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/101 "2007-06-25T13:23:11Z")

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_sniff_ fine

Are you going to be able to get it today then? Let me know before I leave work at around 515. So far I haven’t died of infection, so things are looking good for me

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**Author:** ![kram](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kram](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kram)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/102 "2007-06-25T14:00:31Z")

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Well, good to see my messages have been publicly posted 😛 Regardless; I will address some of them.

I initially made a move on purchasing the site a couple months back. Correspondence moved slow on the son front. I further followed up once i seen the site was down.

I offered to purchase the forum, run it on my dedicated servers, return some revenues back to the club for events, shows, free stickers, free t-shirts, free giveaways etc.

I have my own network of auto sites. I attend events, I take pictures, I take movies. I donate for trophies etc etc.

2G-Money (Dave P) really shouldn’t comment. Dave, you have no idea what i valued in this site or what i was willing to pay. As i expressed to Gonad (gautam) and Bing on the phone, my interest was in saving the forum and ensuring the club was ran and continued on by the same people. I even offered to let them keep all the revenue generated by the car club and i would help with other funding. _see how I didn’t even comment about paying for my Ferrari_

The fact that you would even bring up VS was unnecessary. If you need to know what was said to Gonad, Bing or Andrew, contact them. But for your notes, I was acting for myself.

At this stage, it doesn’t matter. There are two parties claiming they own the site, as i said to Bing, I’m not about to invest in something that is stolen.

To me, I only care to a certain extent. This is between Andrew and Gautam. Someone DID steal the DB and information, they’re liable. This is for Andrew to or Gautam to figure out. Who ever did the undermining should rethink “the good” they’ve done for the forum and club.

Either guys using my posts / comments / msn logs to leverage their e-cred is sad.

The reality is, NEITHER of you have quashed the idea of selling the forum. I just inquired, no one outright said no.

If both of you want to tank the site, go for it.

My offer stands to the rightful owner.

> [@Gonad"](#):
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> Good job Rick. I love how you suddenly had so much interest in me that you called and discussed this, making it sound all legit and how much of a help it wodl be to me.

I had no intention of helping you fix it, as i said from the get go, i was interested in purchasing the site.

Im not playing any cards or hiding anything. I think i’ve been the only honest person here so far. LOL

You said you wanted domain control and the owner of the .ca wouldn’t release it.

Anyhow, i dont know what your motive was or is, but i am not interested in tanking this site or club.

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**Author:** ![TM1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tm1/32/5517_2.png) [@TM1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TM1)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/103 "2007-06-25T14:15:21Z")

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> [@kram"](#):
>
> Well, good to see my messages have been publicly posted 😛 Regardless; I will address some of them.
> 
> I initially made a move on purchasing the site a couple months back. Correspondence moved slow on the son front. I further followed up once i seen the site was down.
> 
> I offered to purchase the forum, run it on my dedicated servers, return some revenues back to the club for events, shows, free stickers, free t-shirts, free giveaways etc.
> 
> I have my own network of auto sites. I attend events, I take pictures, I take movies. I donate for trophies etc etc.
> 
> 2G-Money (Dave P) really shouldn’t comment. Dave, you have no idea what i valued in this site or what i was willing to pay. As i expressed to Gonad (gautam) and Bing on the phone, my interest was in saving the forum and ensuring the club was ran and continued on by the same people. I even offered to let them keep all the revenue generated by the car club and i would help with other funding. _see how I didn’t even comment about paying for my Ferrari_
> 
> The fact that you would even bring up VS was unnecessary. If you need to know what was said to Gonad, Bing or Andrew, contact them. But for your notes, I was acting for myself.
> 
> At this stage, it doesn’t matter. There are two parties claiming they own the site, as i said to Bing, I’m not about to invest in something that is stolen.
> 
> To me, I only care to a certain extent. This is between Andrew and Gautam. Someone DID steal the DB and information, they’re liable. This is for Andrew to or Gautam to figure out. Who ever did the undermining should rethink “the good” they’ve done for the forum and club.
> 
> Either guys using my posts / comments / msn logs to leverage their e-cred is sad.
> 
> The reality is, NEITHER of you have quashed the idea of selling the forum. I just inquired, no one outright said no.
> 
> If both of you want to tank the site, go for it.
> 
> My offer stands to the rightful owner.
> 
> I had no intention of helping you fix it, as i said from the get go, i was interested in purchasing the site.
> 
> Im not playing any cards or hiding anything. I think i’ve been the only honest person here so far. LOL

Sounds pretty honest to me… now if only SON had a stock value, I could cash mine in and make some coin…

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**Author:** ![AppleSauce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/applesauce/32/5521_2.png) [@AppleSauce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AppleSauce)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/104 "2007-06-25T14:18:20Z")

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> [@kram"](#):
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> To me, I only care to a certain extent. This is between Andrew and Gautam. Someone DID steal the DB and information, they’re liable.

Hey Rick who was liable when you stole the DB and email lists from [1320drag.com](http://1320drag.com) and made [1320drag.net](http://1320drag.net) ??? Up to your old tricks again??

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**Author:** ![kram](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kram](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kram)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/105 "2007-06-25T14:20:28Z")

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> [@FS:1994 HONDA CIVIC LX $500](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1994-honda-civic-lx-500/13031/2):
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> Hey Rick who was liable when you stole the DB and email lists from [1320drag.com](http://1320drag.com) and made [1320drag.net](http://1320drag.net) ??? Up to your old tricks again??

Legally, and contractually i owned everything from inception.

Please contact Mark P and ask him for the copy of the contract he signed if you’re that curious. 🙂

I own [www.1320drag.net](http://www.1320drag.net) . We sponsored NOPI 2 years ago and hope to get up and running to the full potential again.

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**Author:** ![AppleSauce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/applesauce/32/5521_2.png) [@AppleSauce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AppleSauce)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/106 "2007-06-25T14:27:10Z")

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Haha, yah of course you own [1320drag.net](http://1320drag.net) after you stole the data base from [1320drag.com](http://1320drag.com) to create it. You’re a joke, and everyone on here now knows it. Bing, Gonad, Andy. Good luck buying the site now.

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**Author:** ![kram](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kram](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kram)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/107 "2007-06-25T14:30:52Z")

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> [@Deers in Florida 1 Nissan Altima -129387](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/deers-in-florida-1-nissan-altima-129387/13007/23):
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> Haha, yah of course you own [1320drag.net](http://1320drag.net) after you stole the data base from [1320drag.com](http://1320drag.com) to create it. You’re a joke, and everyone on here now knows it. Bing, Gonad, Andy. Good luck buying the site now.

Again, i owned the .com, net, ca, us etc. Mark and i parted ways. A legal contract was signed by mark and witnessed by his mother (if i recall correct).

Again, you really to speak to Mark about it as my interest isn’t in rehashing how someone tried to scam me. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/108 "2007-06-25T14:35:48Z")

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I wasn’t going to post any further, but I will now that Rick has made his statement.

If you think what we were doing was to start our own little club, then you clearly have no idea of our intentions. You also had no point in getting involved with this club, especially in bringing legalities and finances into the picture.

Anywho, a meeting is planned between the afforementioned administrators to resolve this issue once and for all.

I am sure very soon that everyone will appreciate and agree with our decision.

We think it will be for the best.

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**Author:** ![TM1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tm1/32/5517_2.png) [@TM1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TM1)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/109 "2007-06-25T14:38:17Z")

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The roads of life are paved with good intentions, but every once and a while you crash Gautam…

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**Author:** ![Oni-Kyan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/oni-kyan/32/5503_2.png) [@Oni-Kyan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oni-Kyan)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/110 "2007-06-25T14:43:14Z")

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fuck this shit, im buying a BMW

fs: sr coupe w/stuff 49,999.99 firm

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**Author:** ![AppleSauce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/applesauce/32/5521_2.png) [@AppleSauce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AppleSauce)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/111 "2007-06-25T14:43:28Z")

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> [@Internet Sex Predators - NBC NOW!!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/internet-sex-predators-nbc-now/12742/38):
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> Again, i owned the .com, net, ca, us etc. Mark and i parted ways. A legal contract was signed by mark and witnessed by his mother (if i recall correct).
> 
> Again, you really to speak to Mark about it as my interest isn’t in rehashing how someone tried to scam me. 🙂

Keep telling yourself that Rick and it might come true. I’m sure Mark will have a good laugh when he hears how much lower you’ve sunk.

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**Author:** ![Soulitude](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/soulitude/32/5644_2.png) [@Soulitude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Soulitude)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/112 "2007-06-25T14:48:12Z")

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gg im out,

contact me if this ever gets straightened out

TNC is my new headache-free home, later guys

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**Author:** ![kram](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kram](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kram)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/113 "2007-06-25T14:52:38Z")

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> [@2 fbody kills...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2-fbody-kills/12362/80):
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> I wasn’t going to post any further, but I will now that Rick has made his statement.
> 
> If you think what we were doing was to start our own little club, then you clearly have no idea of our intentions. You also had no point in getting involved with this club, especially in bringing legalities and finances into the picture.
> 
> Anywho, a meeting is planned between the afforementioned administrators to resolve this issue once and for all.
> 
> I am sure very soon that everyone will appreciate and agree with our decision.
> 
> We think it will be for the best.

Well, i didn’t think anything except that you were the owner and that you were possibly going to sell. No big deal man, i just didn’t realize you weren’t the owner. LOL

You had given me the heads up on the new domains, if you recall, i told you NOT to move it, because for me the site has its history on the .ca, thus more value to me.

Being that i was interested in the forum, there would have to have been remuneration on both sides. Me paying you, the board breaking even, money being invested in the club. The idea is to have foresight into what will cost, so finances are a concern, especially when i’m the one coughing up the money.

As for the legalities, of course those came into play when you, or whomever jacked the DB. For all i know i could have shown up Wednesday, handed you some money and you would have handed over your $20 worth of domains, a DB that doesn’t belong to you etc. Thats assuming that you’re the guy in the wrong.

Anyhow, i think you guys should sort out what has taken place, it would be better for the community.

But, as i’ve said. I am still interested in the site and i wont walk away yet. Much of it can be salvage despite the damage some people have caused.

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**Author:** ![TM1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tm1/32/5517_2.png) [@TM1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TM1)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/114 "2007-06-25T14:53:46Z")

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> [@Soulitude"](#):
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> gg im out,
> 
> contact me if this ever gets straightened out
> 
> TNC is my new headache-free home, later guys

You know that forums don’t have to be a headache if you just ignore the garbage right?

You chose to make it seem like a headache…

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**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/115 "2007-06-25T15:23:14Z")

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> [@BLUE DEVIL: A corvette supercar?!?!?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blue-devil-a-corvette-supercar/19641/12):
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> As new and anonymous as I am, this makes sense to me… its not like our little club is worth a fucking mint, guys. This club is pocket change, and certainly not worth causing such a huge disturbance and incurring the wrath of all the members.

You also forgot that this is SON240sx, and to any 240sx owner, $200 is a lot of money.

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**Author:** ![DarkForceJackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/116 "2007-06-25T15:31:12Z")

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> [@2 fbody kills...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2-fbody-kills/12362/80):
>
> Anywho, a meeting is planned between the afforementioned administrators to resolve this issue once and for all.
> 
> I am sure very soon that everyone will appreciate and agree with our decision.
> 
> We think it will be for the best.

Assuming this is still lined up, all the best.

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**Author:** ![kram](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kram](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kram)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/117 "2007-06-25T19:41:02Z")

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> [@FS:1994 HONDA CIVIC LX $500](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1994-honda-civic-lx-500/13031/2):
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> Hey Rick who was liable when you stole the DB and email lists from [1320drag.com](http://1320drag.com) and made [1320drag.net](http://1320drag.net) ??? Up to your old tricks again??

I’ve never stolen from anyone…

Signed and witnessed… now if you’re telling me what is written out above and signed by your boy is trickery, then damn, too easy.

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**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-real-son240-now/107079/118 "2007-06-25T19:43:01Z")

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Please continue any discussion here. The new thread will be heavily moderated.

[http://forums.son240sx.ca/showthread.php?t=27297](http://forums.son240sx.ca/showthread.php?t=27297)

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