# What makes a bar good or bad?

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**Created:** [August 13, 2007, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-makes-a-bar-good-or-bad/33819 "2007-08-13T09:38:53Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 13, 2007, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-makes-a-bar-good-or-bad/33819/13 "2007-08-13T09:52:09Z")

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patrons (no underage kids or chippewa douchebags)  
bartenders  
music  
not crowded to the point where getting a drink or pissing takes more than 2 minutes  
good beer selection  
patio  
close to home is a plus

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