# What really wrong with blackberry?
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-really-wrong-with-blackberry/207213
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [December 15, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-really-wrong-with-blackberry/207213 "2010-12-15T04:30:02Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-really-wrong-with-blackberry/207213/1 "2010-12-15T04:30:02Z")
> **[What's really wrong with BlackBerry (and what to do about it)](http://mobileopportunity.blogspot.com/2010/10/whats-really-wrong-with-blackberry-and.html#)**
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> Just a couple of weeks after Research in Motion turned in a good earnings report, the death watch over the company has resumed, with Busines...
:tspry:
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### Author:  [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2010, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-really-wrong-with-blackberry/207213/2 "2010-12-15T05:37:37Z")
> That wasn’t supposed to happen, we will have to lay some people off.
LOL
I’m FAR from any sort of market knowledgeable personal, but even I can see they are lacking in new stuff to compete with android and apple.
I really HATE the iPhone I just can deal with it. I’m not much for the droid’s either.
I’m a fan of the BB, but there is just nothing there, besides BBM.
I would like to be able to get my hands on a faster Black berry, everything I use seems slow to me.
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### Author:  [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2010, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-really-wrong-with-blackberry/207213/3 "2010-12-15T05:42:59Z")
I am looking to switch off of BB simply because they are not keeping up in the technology department.
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### Author:  [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2010, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-really-wrong-with-blackberry/207213/4 "2010-12-15T05:45:35Z")
> [@tpgsr](#):
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> I am looking to switch off of BB simply because they are not keeping up in the technology department.
Yep, I finally did it a few months ago. Went to a Samsung Android phone, and don’t miss anything about the BB.
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### Author:  [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2010, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-really-wrong-with-blackberry/207213/5 "2010-12-15T05:53:11Z")
I would go out right now and spend a stupid amount of money if I could get a “rugged” smart phone.
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### Author:  [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2010, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-really-wrong-with-blackberry/207213/6 "2010-12-15T07:34:32Z")
for my money there is nothing better than a blackberry for email/messaging. Droid/iphone/winmo/etc does not come close.
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### Author:  [@Gl1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gl1)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2010, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-really-wrong-with-blackberry/207213/7 "2010-12-15T08:22:06Z")
> [@KuntryQuestTSi](#):
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> I would go out right now and spend a stupid amount of money if I could get a “rugged” smart phone.
This is definitely a niche backberry could fill
> [@Geehee](#):
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> for my money there is nothing better than a blackberry for email/messaging. Droid/iphone/winmo/etc does not come close.
do you use corporate servers? I switched from a blackberry storm to a droid x last month, and the only things i don’t get on my droid that i did on my bb is bbm, and email, and facebook notification sounds, which is probably some setting i can’t find.
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### Author:  [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2010, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-really-wrong-with-blackberry/207213/8 "2010-12-15T08:28:16Z")
Enterprise echange intergration is SERIOUSLY lacking on the Android platform. They still haven’t done full integration with all of the security features of Activesync. It’s seriously disappointing.
I have heard that iPhone exchange accounts work pretty good. Windows Phone 7 is probably pretty good at it too but I’ve never handled one or know anyone who has.
As far as messaging goes, BBM is cool and all, from what I understand. Other than that, I don’t see how it coudl be that much better than Android or others. Google Talk for android ROCKS, handcent sms is a great texting app, gmail app is rock solid and just got a bunch more features.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2010, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-really-wrong-with-blackberry/207213/9 "2010-12-15T08:51:11Z")
Blackberry server software sucks btw
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### Author:  [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2010, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-really-wrong-with-blackberry/207213/10 "2010-12-15T09:31:16Z")
> [@Gl@re](#):
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> do you use corporate servers? I switched from a blackberry storm to a droid x last month, and the only things i don’t get on my droid that i did on my bb is bbm, and email, and facebook notification sounds, which is probably some setting i can’t find.
Yep, on the BES
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2010, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-really-wrong-with-blackberry/207213/11 "2010-12-15T10:14:54Z")
Corporate lock-in is the only thing keeping them alive, and I hear more and more about companies offering an iphone or android alternative to their once blackberry-only corporate cell phone plan.
It’s funny that their strategic advantage used to be that their phones tied to their own servers that let them push email to your phone instantly. Now every phone does that and other companies said “holy shit if we offer unique services (itunes, google’s everything) people will buy our hardware” but Blackberry just sat there going “no really we’re more secure.”
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### Author:  [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-really-wrong-with-blackberry/207213/12 "2010-12-15T19:28:13Z")
they really are though.
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### Author:  [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-really-wrong-with-blackberry/207213/13 "2010-12-15T20:49:44Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> Enterprise echange intergration is SERIOUSLY lacking on the Android platform. They still haven’t done full integration with all of the security features of Activesync. It’s seriously disappointing.
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> I have heard that iPhone exchange accounts work pretty good. Windows Phone 7 is probably pretty good at it too but I’ve never handled one or know anyone who has.
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> As far as messaging goes, BBM is cool and all, from what I understand. Other than that, I don’t see how it coudl be that much better than Android or others. Google Talk for android ROCKS, handcent sms is a great texting app, gmail app is rock solid and just got a bunch more features.
I think it’s gingerbread that improves activesync on the droids. Other than not having the GAL built in, I really don’t have a problem with exchange on the Droid. We’re going to Exchange '10 servers at work so we’ll see how my iPhone and Droid match up.