# What should I do with my "BASS BOAT" 56k warning

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**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [September 30, 2007, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890 "2007-09-30T11:51:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![AppleSauce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/applesauce/32/5521_2.png) [@AppleSauce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AppleSauce)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/61 "2007-09-30T21:11:12Z")

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> [@fat kid goes down](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fat-kid-goes-down/14319/15):
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> i just wana know why u put fiberglass over top of the frame and painted it black if you wernt trying to mislead any1

> [@Ortiz vs Shamrock](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ortiz-vs-shamrock/14294/33):
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> I was actually going to keep the car for myself , i dont really mind not haveing it welded , because i dont race the cars on the street and ive seen some really bad frames on daily drivers so i thought for my own car i would just f/glass it until i could afford some welding , and i told him that i tried to repair the frame but he never looked at it.

Fiberglassing frame rails IS totally illegal.

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**Author:** ![AnDrEw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AnDrEw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AnDrEw)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/62 "2007-09-30T21:21:11Z")

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Nelly should be banned from this club, end of story. Anyone who sells a car like this (as is or not as is) to another member of this club is a scum bag. And don’t tell me you didn’t know it had as many holes as a piece of cheese.

Seeing this kind of garbage pisses me off. Some poor guy that doesn’t know better gets ripped of by a so-called “member” of the same club.

Andrew.

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**Author:** ![Osad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3ab097/32.png) [@Osad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Osad)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/63 "2007-09-30T21:23:30Z")

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> and R33 get your shit straight there is no such “bondo” on that frame there is NOTHING that i put on that frame stop being such a hater, go get laid or sumthin …dam lol.

> I was actually going to keep the car for myself , i dont really mind not haveing it welded , because i dont race the cars on the street and ive seen some really bad frames on daily drivers so i thought for my own car i would just f/glass it until i could afford some welding , and i told him that i tried to repair the frame but he never looked at it.  
> Contradiction?

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**Author:** ![Osad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3ab097/32.png) [@Osad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Osad)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/64 "2007-09-30T21:29:02Z")

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And another contradiction in my last quote, did you not say that he DID inspect the frame and bought it anyways, leading to your innocence?

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**Author:** ![Keez](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/keez/32/5570_2.png) [@Keez](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Keez)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/65 "2007-09-30T21:56:26Z")

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that car is garbage. end of story.  
it def sucks that you are stuck with the car and i wish you well on buying another 240. … if you even will after feeling that kick to the nuts.

i would never come close to buying aero or cars from this guy. fiberglass shit sucks. GET OEM SHIT! less bs and better in the long run 🙂  
ill sell you my car for 5000!!!

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**Author:** ![Keez](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/keez/32/5570_2.png) [@Keez](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Keez)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/66 "2007-09-30T21:58:52Z")

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by the way i dont see any oilspray on that car at all

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**Author:** ![matty](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matty/32/5043_2.png) [@matty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matty)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/67 "2007-09-30T22:15:32Z")

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bingo

i took law rich, and yes, the principle of caveat emptor is what our thinking of

> [@fat kid goes down](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fat-kid-goes-down/14319/19):
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> Caveat Emptor?
> 
> Anyone in a law class that can clarify anything?
> 
> If I was the buyer, I’d feel ripped off and bring the car back to the seller and ask for my money back.
> 
> I also think we should determine if Nelly has set a new precident by selling bad cars to unsuspecting buyers. Maybe banning him from selling cars is something we should do.
> 
> Thankfully, _this isn’t a free marketplace_ and we (you) can control what is and isn’t sold.

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**Author:** ![matty](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matty/32/5043_2.png) [@matty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matty)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/68 "2007-09-30T22:21:36Z")

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and furthermore, that kid will NEVER get 1900 back from that car

i know because ive parted several 240’s in better condition, one with an sr20 in it, and i still didnt make that much back, not only that but it took me about one year to part everything back out.

second, its a good thing the kid spotted the floors and stuff now, because everntually he would have sat down in his seat and ended up with his ass touchign the ground

my first 2 240’s were both shit boxes, i was a noob and didnt know better. live and learn i suppose.

im not defending nelly because that is definately one pos car, and you cant tell me there is no way you had no idea the floors were like. i wouldnt believe it in a million years.

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**Author:** ![kapetajr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kapetajr/32/5445_2.png) [@kapetajr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kapetajr)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/69 "2007-09-30T22:31:30Z")

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> [@fat kid goes down](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fat-kid-goes-down/14319/19):
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> Caveat Emptor?

“let the buyer beware” without a warranty the buyer takes the risk.

i’m glad u never bought anything this bad

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**Author:** ![kapetajr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kapetajr/32/5445_2.png) [@kapetajr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kapetajr)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/70 "2007-09-30T22:32:13Z")

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> [@fat kid goes down](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fat-kid-goes-down/14319/19):
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> Caveat Emptor?

“let the buyer beware” without a warranty the buyer takes the risk.

i’m glad i never bought anything this bad

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**Author:** ![BAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bas/32/5540_2.png) [@BAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BAS)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/71 "2007-09-30T22:54:21Z")

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it falls under the same set of laws as trying to sell your car without all the saftey equipment that it came with OEM. This car could never be made road worthy, not just because of the floor pan holes but the fractured frame sections (seen in the pictures). As a unibody, this car can never be certified again.  
Selling ‘as is’ is not a get out of jail free card, the car was sold with the knowledge that the buyer was going to lic. it for road use… You (nelly) essentially committed fraud.

On a personal note I find it repulsive that someone would even try to sell this car to another person. It shows a distinct lack of morals and ethics. You sir, are a twat.

> [@How could you be SOOOO oblivious???](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-could-you-be-soooo-oblivious/14320/4):
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> ^^ Ian, you’ve perked my interest.
> 
> How does this work exactly?
> 
> you said “you can’t sell a car that cannot be made road worhty AS road worthy”.
> 
> He mentioned that the car was sold “as-is”. Doesn’t that basically mean “might not be road worthy” ?
> 
> If you could elaborate it would be apprecaited - might save us all some big hassles later in life.
> 
> -J

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**Author:** ![nelly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ed8c4c/32.png) [@nelly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nelly)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/72 "2007-09-30T22:54:41Z")

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> [@fat kid goes down](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fat-kid-goes-down/14319/29):
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> Nelly should be banned from this club, end of story. Anyone who sells a car like this (as is or not as is) to another member of this club is a scum bag. And don’t tell me you didn’t know it had as many holes as a piece of cheese.
> 
> Seeing this kind of garbage pisses me off. Some poor guy that doesn’t know better gets ripped of by a so-called “member” of the same club.
> 
> Andrew.

Im glad your not running this club anymore even when u were you would always post the stupidest shit in my threads…yay for Gonad.

Quote:  
and R33 get your shit straight there is no such “bondo” on that frame there is NOTHING that i put on that frame stop being such a hater, go get laid or sumthin …dam lol.

Quote:  
I was actually going to keep the car for myself , i dont really mind not haveing it welded , because i dont race the cars on the street and ive seen some really bad frames on daily drivers so i thought for my own car i would just f/glass it until i could afford some welding , and i told him that i tried to repair the frame but he never looked at it.

Contradiction?

no Contradiction there was no Bondo on the Frame of any of these cars Purple or Orange S13

2nd quote in talking about my old car not the 1 that the whole Comunnity of son has beef with me over.

> that car is garbage. end of story.  
> it def sucks that you are stuck with the car and i wish you well on buying another 240. … if you even will after feeling that kick to the nuts.
> 
> i would never come close to buying aero or cars from this guy. fiberglass shit sucks. GET OEM SHIT! less bs and better in the long run  
> ill sell you my car for 5000!!!

1. My Aero is good Quality , and you could never afford it just send lowballin Pm’s and still never show.

2. I dont want your car.

> by the way i dont see any oilspray on that car at all

Look closley

metal is smooth this is not smooth :rolleyes: its black and bumpy…i wonder what that is? we didnt try to cover up the rust AT ALL with ANYTHING AS YOU ALL CAN SEE!

SO what is the problem, When u buy a 240 You inspect the underbody…now after inspecting the underbody of this car would you buy it?..???

no you probably wouldn’t but he DID. there was nothing at all hiding the rust sooo guess what all u fucking Nazi bastard It’s STILL the buyers responsibility to Inspect the car and im pretty sure he did , if he didn’t well THATS HIS FAULT

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**Author:** ![nelly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ed8c4c/32.png) [@nelly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nelly)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/73 "2007-09-30T22:57:53Z")

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> [@FS: 2003 Mitsubishi Evolution](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2003-mitsubishi-evolution/3297/217):
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> it falls under the same set of laws as trying to sell your car without all the saftey equipment that it came with OEM. This car could never be made road worthy, not just because of the floor pan holes but the fractured frame sections (seen in the pictures). As a unibody, this car can never be certified again.  
> Selling ‘as is’ is not a get out of jail free card, the car was sold with the knowledge that the buyer was going to lic. it for road use… You (nelly) essentially committed fraud.
> 
> On a personal note I find it repulsive that someone would even try to sell this car to another person. It shows a distinct lack of morals and ethics. You sir, are a twat.

Touche’ but 'i dont really care what I am in your books.

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**Author:** ![boomheadshot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/48db29/32.png) [@boomheadshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boomheadshot)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/74 "2007-09-30T22:58:00Z")

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> [@fat kid goes down](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fat-kid-goes-down/14319/29):
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> Nelly should be banned from this club, end of story. Anyone who sells a car like this (as is or not as is) to another member of this club is a scum bag. And don’t tell me you didn’t know it had as many holes as a piece of cheese.
> 
> Seeing this kind of garbage pisses me off. Some poor guy that doesn’t know better gets ripped of by a so-called “member” of the same club.
> 
> Andrew.

lawl at the cheese comment, so true heh. i’m surprised the buyer didn’t end up flintstone status

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**Author:** ![BAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bas/32/5540_2.png) [@BAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BAS)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/75 "2007-09-30T23:04:40Z")

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First off princess, titles from the junk yard are two fold, a good car that has a solid frame and STILL has to pass cert, a salvage title that is sold as ‘salvage’ which falls under different rules… and STILL has to pass a cert. if you try to put it on the road, then there are cars that can’t be sold , like this one where major structural unibody frame members are seperated, broken and collapsing… these they can’t sell for anything put parts.

and since your such the ‘man’s man’ in the garage, with your years of structural eng., fabrication and building skills you’d know that ‘ANY car could be rebuilt’ when in reality NOT any car could be rebuilt, esp. not when rust is this far into a UNIBODY. but I’m sure to make that extra buck… you’d try it…

> [@finally posting here...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-posting-here/14302/18):
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> What Ian is saying is bullshit for various reasons, one being that theoretically any car can be restored and there is no one that can prove otherwise, certainly not your municipal court or a Justice of the Peace. If that were the case it would be illegal to buy write-offs or parts cars etc.

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**Author:** ![nelly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ed8c4c/32.png) [@nelly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nelly)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/76 "2007-09-30T23:09:41Z")

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well i guess you guys shoould see this  
yea FUCK YOU ALL TO HELL NOW get your FUCKING FACTS STRAIGHT NAZI’S HE DID LOOK AT THE CAR ASSCLOWN …anyways thats all i need to say , i guess he took on to much of a project knowing the full extent as he quoted in my thread?

and ruined my name in the process?

w/e

> [@hahaha STi \> ls1 SS Camaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hahaha-sti-ls1-ss-camaro/13849/29):
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> Hey every body thought I’d let you know what I saw, checked it out today. Nick is a good guy, straight up.
> 
> for $2000 it is a solid car, and if you like the colour then the paint will last a long time.
> 
> problems:  
> needs two rear tires to certify  
> _frame needs repair(but is included) and patch floor(transistion from wheel well to floor) on drivers side_  
> need proper front springs and probably shocks  
> also put in a driverside lock  
> dash gauges issues(fuel, temp, back light)  
> undercoat/seal little rust on rear left bumper/fender  
> ebrake(cable?)
> 
> Transmission is nice, smooth shifts, good clutch.  
> Engine is healthy, pretty nice exhaust note. front and rear lights suit the car. interior is in good shape, few rattles.  
> Brakes are fine.
> 
> While on the ricey side, it looks good. good bet for $2000.  
> so if I don’t get it, hope someone does (no BS floppers)
> 
> ps the wheels are pretty dope too.  
> ii

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**Author:** ![nelly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ed8c4c/32.png) [@nelly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nelly)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/77 "2007-09-30T23:11:10Z")

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now can you guys drop this? hate if u wanna hate but i told u i did nothin wrong

[http://www.son240sx.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27892&page=6](http://www.son240sx.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27892&page=6)

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**Author:** ![BAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bas/32/5540_2.png) [@BAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BAS)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/78 "2007-09-30T23:14:40Z")

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i truly hope the next guy you do this to takes a bat to your knee caps. But given your comments here and painfully obvious stupidity I don’t think that would help get the ‘point’ across.  
There is no way you could miss that when you were asked about the ‘rust problem’… Did you make a lift or jack available for the customer to inspect the underside? did you even mention the any other rust points or the fact that a frikin MAIN frame rail was split into 10 pc’s… ?

Twat.

> [@the was one hell of a headbutt](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-was-one-hell-of-a-headbutt/14323/17):
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> Look closley
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> metal is smooth this is not smooth :rolleyes: its black and bumpy…i wonder what that is? we didnt try to cover up the rust AT ALL with ANYTHING AS YOU ALL CAN SEE!
> 
> SO what is the problem, When u buy a 240 You inspect the underbody…now after inspecting the underbody of this car would you buy it?..???
> 
> no you probably wouldn’t but he DID. there was nothing at all hiding the rust sooo guess what all u fucking Nazi bastard It’s STILL the buyers responsibility to Inspect the car and im pretty sure he did , if he didn’t well THATS HIS FAULT

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**Author:** ![BSZK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bszk/32/5614_2.png) [@BSZK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BSZK)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/79 "2007-10-01T01:18:58Z")

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When I inspected the car, I had no idea how bad the floor was. I saw the frame, rail was provided. Had I a better flash light I might have seen the sound-deadening that made that damage seem smaller.

But upon finding the floor in this shape, there isn’t much to weld to. The reason I peeled up the carpet up in the first place was to repair it.

Also I can assure you I didn’t use the needle nose to make holes bigger. Don’t appreciate that accusation either.

Under the sound-deadening(formed black shit that breaks like clay) scale-type rust already formed, so if holes are bigger its because it was held by the material.

As for the frame picture, that was taken pretty much week after I got it.

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**Author:** ![nelly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ed8c4c/32.png) [@nelly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nelly)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-should-i-do-with-my-bass-boat-56k-warning/109890/80 "2007-10-01T01:23:32Z")

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yea that clay stuff was the oil spray that wasnt applied by us the previos owner so what you saw under there is exactly what we saw , not sayin that your implying that we cheated you but , we were both on the same page of the condition of the underbody, or at least you and nick were . as you can tell my brothers main focus was to use that car as a tool lol … some what of a magnet for chicks who dig sparkles and big rims lol…

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