# What the elise should've been

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [December 18, 2007, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456 "2007-12-18T12:33:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/1 "2007-12-18T12:33:02Z")

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[http://www.hondamarketplace.com/zerothread?id=2100992](http://www.hondamarketplace.com/zerothread?id=2100992)

> [@p1ccoloz](#):
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> Its come time to part with my car, I’ll be making a permanent move to Vietnam. Its a 2004 with 28k miles on the chassis and about 17k on the motor. KBB private party value is $18,845 and KBB retail value is $20,820, I’ve also added about $25,000 in mods. I think my asking price of $27,000 obo is reasonable. However I am OPEN TO OFFERS.  
> Email: [Mike.A.Ngo@gmail.com](mailto:Mike.A.Ngo@gmail.com)  
> Cell: 714 717 2286  
> [http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors…7.m29](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15289&viewitem=&item=220156621182&_trksid=p3907.m29)  
> Thanks for looking!  
> Publications:  
> American Touge 2  
> November 2006 issue of SuperStreet [http://www.superstreetonline.c…\_swap](http://www.superstreetonline.com/featuredvehicles/2004_toyota_mr2_spyder_spyder_k2o_engine_swap)/
> 
> Engine:  
> JDM ITR K20a  
> Hondata K-Pro  
> Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket  
> Hytech Header  
> Hytech Twinloop Exhaust 2.5in  
> Custom 3in Intake  
> RBC Intake Manifold  
> 190 LPH High Flow Fuel Pump  
> JDM ITR Transmission  
> ACT Clutch  
> Custom Axles  
> Chassis  
> JDM ITR Gear Type LSD  
> JIC Magic FLT-A2’s  
> Saner 1inch 3 Way Adjustable Front Sway Bar  
> Saner Front Endlinks  
> TTE 3 Way Adjustable Rear Sway Bar  
> Two’s-R-us Rear Endlinks  
> Energy Suspension Sway Bar Bushings  
> TRD Front Strut Bar  
> TRD Rear Strut Bar  
> Corky Skid Plate  
> Che Adjustable Control Arms  
> Che Adjustable Trailing Arms  
> Che Adjustable Track Arms  
> Autopower 4pt Rollbar w/ Harness Bar  
> Brakes:  
> Carbotech XP8 Pads Front and Rear  
> TiC Stainless Steel Brake Lines  
> ATE Super Blue Brake Fluid  
> Exterior:  
> BRS Auto Design Front Lip  
> 3m Clear Bra  
> ViS TRD Replica Stage 1 Sideskirts  
> ViS TRD Replica Stage 1 Rear Spoiler  
> JDM OE Hardtop  
> MK1 Eagle Emblem  
> JDM Celica Sidemarkers  
> Painted Headlight Housings  
> Tinted Foglights  
> Hasegawa lug nuts  
> Work Emotion CR Cai in Bronze 16x7 (f) 17x8 ®  
> Falken Azenis rt-615 215/45-16 (f) 235/40-17 ®  
> Interior:  
> Carbon Fiber Bucket Seat  
> MK1 Eagle Steering Wheel Emblem  
> B&M Short Shifter  
> STi 6-Speed Shift Knob  
> Sony m630 Headunit  
> Misc:  
> Speed Source Brass Shifter Bushings  
> Hawker Genesis 13lbs Battery  
> Corky Battery Tray  
> Hasport Transmission Mount  
> Polyurethane Engine Mount Inserts  
> Removed Softtop
> 
> ![http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b391/youdontngo/DSC01215.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/9/a9a5c193c4ad4f040923bc00039f257db1b262c7.jpeg)  
> ![http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b391/youdontngo/IMG_0774.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/e/6/e64486667bd03d0d3d7a6621e9322b1c34bbcbf6.jpeg)  
> ![http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b391/youdontngo/DSC01231.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/9/4/94b6f15ad32e4a7333ec2b01c85ca62702fbf9a9.jpeg)  
> ![http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b391/youdontngo/IMG_2807.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/9/0/90e364797e8549aa63272aa5d3924f83c15d9347.jpeg)  
> new header/exhaust/intake manifold  
> ![http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/simontan75/Hytechtwinloop.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/8/a/8a398cabdcbfa0a6e2e61507f17925fbf44071b6.jpeg)  
> ![http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/simontan75/IMG_1800.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/d/5/d58128a6d78fb39455bdb2f42c98a7a8ec74ff8e.jpeg)  
> ignore the 2zz turbo title:  
> ![http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b391/youdontngo/dyno.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/9/5/95d2b85248e4647cd10ffea0b56916d51864466d.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/2 "2007-12-18T12:36:15Z")

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very cool

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/3 "2007-12-18T12:37:10Z")

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I will be the first to say, That color blows.

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**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/4 "2007-12-18T12:40:10Z")

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yes, i posted this car for its color

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/5 "2007-12-18T12:40:11Z")

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Wow those dyno numbers are surprising. That thing should be fun.

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**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/6 "2007-12-18T12:42:22Z")

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#'s are right on for the better intake mani and custom exhaust system and tuned KPRO

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/7 "2007-12-18T12:44:14Z")

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> [@Toda Party](#):
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> #'s are right on for the better intake mani and custom exhaust system and tuned KPRO

Yeah it’s just surprising. I went back to the pics to see if I had missed something. I’m impressed.

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/8 "2007-12-18T12:44:50Z")

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so a lot more money dumped into a MR2 Spyder, and less power than a stock Exige S, am I missing something?

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**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/9 "2007-12-18T12:51:13Z")

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Apparenlty you are missing reading comprehension skilllz cuz I said Elise, not exige.

And we all know hp#'s alone determine a car’s performance, amirite?

to explain the title: the elise should’ve come w/ the JDM K20 instead of that pos toyota motor.

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/10 "2007-12-18T12:55:22Z")

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meh elise with warranty\>that

Exige S \> that

there are a few people that tried making the MRS elise killers, they all have failed. Head to head, same track, same drive, same day the Elise was faster than the MRS.

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**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/11 "2007-12-18T12:59:59Z")

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> [@66impalass](#):
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> meh elise with warranty\>that
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> Exige S \> that
> 
> there are a few people that tried making the MRS elise killers, they all have failed. Head to head, same track, same drive, same day the Elise was faster than the MRS.

lol

since when do people on this site really care about warranties?

you are also comparing a blown 4 vs an NA4…i’d hope the S would make more power than a stock K20 with “custom” intake/exhaust manifolds lol. what motor were those MRS’ running in those comparisons? JDM K20’s?

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**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/12 "2007-12-18T13:01:03Z")

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but he is sayin an elise with the Honda motor would jsut absolutely dominate

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/13 "2007-12-18T13:01:19Z")

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needs blower k20a

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**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/14 "2007-12-18T13:05:35Z")

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^^ agreeed

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/15 "2007-12-18T13:06:51Z")

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Blown 2ZZE, had more power, but had more weight.

plus there are a decent amount of K20/K24 swapped elises/exige running around.

MRS isn’t the best performing chasis.

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**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/16 "2007-12-18T13:09:47Z")

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> [@66impalass](#):
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> Blown 2ZZE, had more power, but had more weight.

how much? like 10lbs, aka the weight of the blower and associated parts? :lol:

you didn’t answer my question tho, what motors were in the MRS’ in that competition you mentioned?

I’m not saying the MRS is omg so leet, I’ve ALWAYS been a Lotus \<3’er but u seem to harbor some deep down hate for the MRS / Kseries combo…?

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/17 "2007-12-18T13:13:08Z")

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I think that right there is an awesome looking car(in a different color) and probably performs really well with k20a and suspension mods.

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**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/18 "2007-12-18T13:13:38Z")

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just link that comparo if you can find it. the whole point of this post was that lotii + k-series = the win

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/19 "2007-12-18T14:02:27Z")

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> [@Toda Party](#):
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> lol
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> since when do people on this site really care about warranties?

I will enjoy my GMPP up till 85,000 miles  
I enjoy managing my risk, less to worry about.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-the-elise-shouldve-been/40456/20 "2007-12-18T14:03:53Z")

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Man, MRS’ suck SOOOO bad.

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