# What to do? Make STI fast and have slow DD or buy cheap fast car and keep STI as DD?
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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [August 14, 2008, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217 "2008-08-14T07:46:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@BluBalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BluBalls)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/41 "2008-08-14T11:30:23Z")
> [@FuzzyFish](#):
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> Just out of curiosity, what is it that prevents the STI from being any good in the 1/4 even with a good amount of power?
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> Gearing too close, or not suitable?
$$$$$$
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### Author:  [@BluBalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BluBalls)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/42 "2008-08-14T11:31:43Z")
There are STIs in the 9s but they go through engines like they do tires.
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### Author:  [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/43 "2008-08-14T11:33:10Z")
> [@neonglh](#):
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> But its not, its pretty tough!
It really is tho. Just because there are not many in the area does not mean they are not out there. a 35r + supporting mods gets you there. A fp green or red + supporting mods gets you there. gt30’s get there… Hell there is a stock vf39 that ran an 11.2.
Its not hard to get there.
> [@FuzzyFish](#):
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> Just out of curiosity, what is it that prevents the STI from being any good in the 1/4 even with a good amount of power?
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> Gearing too close, or not suitable?
As i said aove its not hard to get there… but money is another thing lol. I find that most people on the boards who have high hp STis all seem to have shitty wheel+tire combos. Im sure inntune again would be the one to ask on this one.
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### Author:  [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/44 "2008-08-14T11:35:19Z")
If you’re fond of the car, DD it. If you really want that 10’s goal, get another platform. STi sounds like a great Buffalo daily.
You could get a Duster, Nova, Maverick, Fox body, 4G F-bod, etc. for a third of what you could sell the Impreza for. In fact, you could pick up a pre-set drag chassis for dirt cheap - these things are in AutoTrader all the time - “$18K invested, sacrifice at $6k” :roflpicard:
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### Author:  [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/45 "2008-08-14T11:36:20Z")
If you need a 35r to get into the low 12’s high 11’s, then something is wrong. The car that went 11.2 with the VF39 was gutted and completely setup to do just the quarter. Thats like saying gtp’s go 11.4 because john did it. The others that aren’t’ set up go mid 12’s.
The main reason its tough to go fast is the extra shift (4th tops out at 100 mph).
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### Author:  [@BluBalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BluBalls)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/46 "2008-08-14T11:39:37Z")
and 5th gear sucks.
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### Author:  [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/47 "2008-08-14T11:39:57Z")
> [@neonglh](#):
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> If you need a 35r to get into the low 12’s high 11’s, then something is wrong. The car that went 11.2 with the VF39 was gutted and completely setup to do just the quarter. Thats like saying gtp’s go 11.4 because john did it. The others that aren’t’ set up go mid 12’s.
I was making a point… after all, it will be a TRACK CAR. Gutting would be one step closer to saving money.
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### Author:  [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/48 "2008-08-14T11:40:48Z")
> [@BluBalls](#):
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> and 5th gear sucks.
Not iff yooouu caaannnn reevvvv hhiiigghheeerr hehe
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### Author:  [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/49 "2008-08-14T11:44:25Z")
> [@MOBOOST4U](#):
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> Not iff yooouu caaannnn reevvvv hhiiigghheeerr hehe
I actually did some tests with the STi. I don’t remember the exact numbers, I think my rev limit was set to 7500. That doesn’t matter, anyways, I picked up between 2 and 3 tenths by revving it to the full rev limit (slightly under of course) vs. short shifting by 500 rpm. I wanted to see if the stock turbo could still make power up top, and it could.
I rev the Evo out to 8k and it pulls strong all the way to 8k too. Revs are nice 👋
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### Author:  [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/50 "2008-08-14T11:50:42Z")
> [@neonglh](#):
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> I wanted to see if the stock turbo could still make power up top, and it could.
Wow, I have trouble believing that without cams.
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### Author:  [@Slopoke](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slopoke)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/51 "2008-08-14T11:51:25Z")
Keep sti as a dd and get this NOW…
[http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55139](http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55139)
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### Author:  [@BluBalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BluBalls)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/52 "2008-08-14T11:52:40Z")
It doesn’t seem like shifting that high would be worth it because TQ drops off so fast (turbo is tiny)
this is my dyno with 3" turbo back, drop in filter and protune:
297/332 at 19psi with 93 oct.
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### Author:  [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/53 "2008-08-14T11:54:12Z")
Or buy mine for 12.5k Goes 11.90’s babying the transmission, and is still on the baby turbo. Imagine having a 35r on it or larger :tup:
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### Author:  [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/54 "2008-08-14T11:56:20Z")
> [@BluBalls](#):
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> It doesn’t seem like shifting that high would be worth it because TQ drops off so fast (turbo is tiny)
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> this is my dyno with 3" turbo back, drop in filter and protune:
You don’t need torque once you are moving. As long as the car is still making power, its better to run out the gear than to waste time shifting. Plus, the longer you stay in the gear, your gear ratio is better, not to mention lag is a bitch.
All depends on the setup, but with mine (mods mentioned on previous page) it was dead nuts true.
–mark
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### Author:  [@Harvey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Harvey)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/55 "2008-08-14T12:42:45Z")
> [@theblue](#):
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> I’ve come up with a rule that says if you add anymore more than 100hp to a car it will be a miserable or pain in the ass daily driver.
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> evo is a much better choice for a 10 second car. (much easlier / cheaper). but I wouldn’t pick either.
I like to use the 50% rule. If you add more than 50% of the original power you will start having trouble. A perfect example is that you can see STi’s in the 400 whp range all day long with few problems. (380 WHP + est 450 motor; stock is 300bhp). Evo’s are good to the same range before transmissions explode.
I think you could get into the 10’s or at least low 11’s reliably with a 30R, and some forged pistons. This is of course given you can drive the car.
All that said, I think you should keep the STi the way it is, and get a cheap car to drag race. :tup:
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/56 "2008-08-14T12:47:11Z")
I don’t think you can consider “easily” to include “forged pistons”
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/57 "2008-08-14T12:50:47Z")
:lol: If you want a cheap drag racing car buy a LS1 F-body…5k car…5k in mods run 10s all day…
I still don’t understand why people turn 25-30k cars into drag cars then spend a ton of time broken.
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### Author:  [@MrSmith](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MrSmith)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/58 "2008-08-14T12:56:20Z")
If its so cheap to run 10s with an LS1 car whats with all the local money pits? :gotme:
nm i get it all day for _1_ day until something breaks. Cougarspeed’s car excluded. 😛
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/59 "2008-08-14T12:58:36Z")
> [@MrSmith](#):
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> If its so cheap to run 10s with an LS1 car whats with all the local money pits? :gotme:
> nm i get it all day for _1_ day until something breaks. Cougarspeed’s car excluded. 😛
Because everyone else wants to be cool…with turbos, superchargers, bling wheels, full interior…
Then they get scared to put proper slicks/suspension on their car.
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### Author:  [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2008, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/60 "2008-08-14T13:01:13Z")
> [@MrSmith](#):
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> If its so cheap to run 10s with an LS1 car whats with all the local money pits? :gotme:
> nm i get it all day for _1_ day until something breaks. Cougarspeed’s car excluded. 😛
QFT.
Cougarspeed is no longer local
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