# What to do(motor)

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [May 2, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046 "2005-05-02T19:27:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/21 "2005-05-06T11:30:07Z")

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> [@Vapor Trail](#):
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> i feel the same way, B series parts are more plentyful and you pretty much know what combination works because its been done. the after market for the H series motor is a little weak compared to the B motors, and until you buy a good motor mount kit(hasport) so the motor sits in the engine bay straight and you dont go through axles every week, then theres the wireing half of it. money saved on wireing and motor mount kits you can get some nice upgrades stuff for the B series motor

thats why eveyone & their mother has a b series swap…

do something different.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/22 "2005-05-06T14:11:41Z")

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> [@showtime](#):
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> thats why eveyone & their mother has a b series swap…
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> do something different.

if you have an unlimited budget then yes try something new…if not stick to the tried and true

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**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/23 "2005-05-06T14:46:30Z")

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The all motor K-series swaps are impressive but oh so expensive.

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/24 "2005-05-06T14:54:38Z")

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> [@unicorn](#):
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> The all motor K-series swaps are impressive but oh so expensive.

and tuning K series stuff teh sucks

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**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/25 "2005-05-06T15:22:22Z")

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> [@BoostedITR41](#):
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> and tuning K series stuff teh sucks

i heard the same… there is something crazy like 200 different variables to do with the cams when tuning with a honduhta

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**Author:** ![ritalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@ritalin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ritalin)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/26 "2005-05-06T15:34:04Z")

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Personally i’d go Ls/vtec instead of b20 if you decide to go that route. Stating that they can’t rev high is only accurate if you maintain its stock bottom end. B20 and Ls r/s ratio is the same but its not too terrible. If you build the block you won’t need to worry about oil squirters being machined into the block.

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/27 "2005-05-06T16:37:10Z")

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Oh god, please dont build an all motor b-series honda…

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/28 "2005-05-06T17:19:45Z")

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> [@unicorn](#):
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> Oh god, please dont build an all motor b-series honda…

all motor = all slow unless you gut it to no tomorrow and don’t mind driving a rattling tin can

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**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/29 "2005-05-06T18:19:30Z")

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all motor…aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

what a waste of time and money.

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**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/30 "2005-05-06T18:30:10Z")

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> [@kilmer420](#):
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> tell that to every turdbo motor

dsm guys yank the squirters when they build race motors :hitit:

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**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/31 "2005-05-06T18:43:08Z")

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> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#):
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> dsm guys yank the squirters when they build race motors :hitit:

thats because they only use them for straight up drag racing only. but for a car that is driven on the street somewhat i would rather have them in there…

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**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/32 "2005-05-06T18:47:42Z")

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it depends…we complain about high oil pressure as it is and they do help to lower oil pressure…dont’ get me wrong mine are in there but most guys pull em.

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/33 "2005-05-06T22:38:34Z")

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> [@brokeasskorean](#):
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> i heard the same… there is something crazy like 200 different variables to do with the cams when tuning with a honduhta

yup because you have to tune the cams via ECU instead of gears so you have to mess with the cam profile over every RPM range

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/34 "2005-05-06T23:32:09Z")

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i think u should do a H series…  
and dont forget i have an h22 tranny for sale!!! :bigthumb:

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/35 "2005-05-07T10:59:45Z")

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> [@BoostedITR41](#):
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> yup because you have to tune the cams via ECU instead of gears so you have to mess with the cam profile over every RPM range

yea…that shit is for the birds

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/36 "2005-05-07T14:50:32Z")

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> [@BoostedITR41](#):
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> all motor = all slow unless you gut it to no tomorrow and don’t mind driving a rattling tin can

Pretty much man, you dont see too many all motor b-series making more than 180-220 wheel horsepower. And thats a completely built motor and usually at least a 1.8 liter. Hell just a b16 with a beat ass turbo kit will get you 250 whp.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/37 "2005-05-07T15:02:59Z")

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> [@unicorn](#):
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> Pretty much man, you dont see too many all motor b-series making more than 180-220 wheel horsepower. And thats a completely built motor and usually at least a 1.8 liter. Hell just a b16 with a beat ass turbo kit will get you 250 whp.

yeah tell me about it…

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/38 "2005-05-07T18:00:05Z")

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So basically put the H22 in my hatch and Turbo the GSR motor…Best of both worlds.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/39 "2005-05-07T23:12:08Z")

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> [@unicorn](#):
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> Pretty much man, you dont see too many all motor b-series making more than 180-220 wheel horsepower. And thats a completely built motor and usually at least a 1.8 liter. Hell just a b16 with a beat ass turbo kit will get you 250 whp.

shit look back to marks turbo SI from 4 years ago…it went 13.1 on stock tires with a basic Fmax kit at 10psi

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-motor/174046/40 "2005-05-07T23:41:41Z")

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turbo d16 :kekegay:

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