# What to do?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [December 24, 2006, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093 "2006-12-24T22:15:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/21 "2006-12-26T10:26:45Z")

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Don’t mod your daily. Well at least not heavily.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/22 "2006-12-26T10:28:24Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> because it’s ugly  
> not fast  
> super ugly  
> interior is garbage  
> looks like a grand am.  
> general suckiness.

as opposed to the STI which is  
ugly  
equally slow  
super ugly  
worse interior  
looks like an impreza, oh wait, it is  
more expensive.  
least it has 4 doors for all of your grocery-getting needs.  
:tup:

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/23 "2006-12-26T10:34:44Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> as opposed to the STI which is  
> ugly  
> equally slow  
> super ugly  
> worse interior  
> looks like an impreza, oh wait, it is  
> more expensive.  
> least it has 4 doors for all of your grocery-getting needs.  
> :tup:

While I do agree the sti is ugly.  
I would rather have an impreza over a gran am  
4 doors \> 2 doors  
and the interior is no where near as cheap feeling or looking as the gto interior

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**Author:** ![rj-92](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rj-92/32/7310_2.png) [@rj-92](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rj-92)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/24 "2006-12-26T14:25:46Z")

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> [@Minglor](#):
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> While I do agree the sti is ugly.  
> I would rather have an impreza over a gran am  
> 4 doors \> 2 doors  
> and the interior is no where near as cheap feeling or looking as the gto interior

Really? I beg to differ. The interior in the GTO is one of GMs best interiors of any car. I wonder how many of you guys wo hate it so much have actaully driven one? I have driven an STI as well and I can assure you, the STi interior is NOT better than the GTO’s. I guess you are thinking, 'oh because its a GM the interior must suck" I can also assure you that it is nothing like a grand am, in any way. I will concure that many GM interiors do infact suck, but the GTO’s isnt one of them. I would even put it nearly on par with my friends 06 330i. And I already bought it.

MPD, What’s wrong with using the SHO as a track car? It is quite capable as a road course car. And believe it or not Very reliable as one as well.

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**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/25 "2006-12-26T14:56:36Z")

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ron jon…i wana play with the GTO…they are really growing on me…and the right FI setup on one is :pimp:

the interiors are very nice btw

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/26 "2006-12-26T14:59:37Z")

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I would buy a GTO I think the interiors are better then the C6 interiors

but keep it stock

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/27 "2006-12-26T15:14:14Z")

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> [@turbo ls1 ss](#):
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> …and the right FI setup on one is :pimp:

i hear that HRK Fabrication builds turbo kits for anything 🤣

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**Author:** ![rj-92](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rj-92/32/7310_2.png) [@rj-92](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rj-92)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/28 "2006-12-26T15:19:15Z")

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> [@turbo ls1 ss](#):
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> ron jon…i wana play with the GTO…they are really growing on me…

It be a closer race if you ran the SHO. Its quicker than the Goat.

Your set up in the GTO would be mad pimp!!!

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**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/29 "2006-12-26T15:20:27Z")

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did you see the compartment you’d be working with in a GTO?.. required probably the tightest tubulars ive ever seen… there are a couple real nice turbo kits. i know a guy who is doing a twin T6 T88 408…i dunno how hes gona do it…but god damn. i know it will be nice. the shop doing it is top notch

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**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/30 "2006-12-26T15:21:43Z")

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lol… by play, i meant i want to tear it apart and put go fast parts in it. i never worked on a GTO before, and theres some nice setups for it

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**Author:** ![rj-92](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rj-92/32/7310_2.png) [@rj-92](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rj-92)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/31 "2006-12-26T15:43:16Z")

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APS makes a nice looking kit for them. No idea how much they cost but I love the cast iron manifolds and the way they are put together.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/32 "2006-12-26T15:48:08Z")

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> [@rj-92](#):
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> MPD, What’s wrong with using the SHO as a track car? It is quite capable as a road course car. And believe it or not Very reliable as one as well.

Rofl, FWD, 4 door sedan as a “track” car? What are you smoking? Get something that actually has “some” resale or usage value as a track car. 944NA, E30, Miata, RX7, etc. SHO’s arent worth SHIT as a track car.

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**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/33 "2006-12-26T16:22:49Z")

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that APS kit was just on sale for 5200$ ish complete. not bas for a twin kit with turbos rated at 600 each. forgot about that kit but its very nice as well. compact, complete, hidden. the only thing i didnt like on it was the intakes for the turbos

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**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/34 "2006-12-26T16:58:28Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> Rofl, FWD, 4 door sedan as a “track” car? What are you smoking?

Tell that to Realtime Racing (Acura TSX), Tripoint (Mazda 6) etc. Last I checked, they were all doing just fine in Speed World Challenge. I bet it would cost a pretty decent amount of money to buy one of their old cars, too.

Doesn’t make the SHO a better track car, but just shoots holes in your broad sweeping statement… :touchy:

Oh, and option 3 is the way to go. Leave it stock. Don’t mod your DD. Then try to find a good candidate for SHOgun conversion. 🙂

…and don’t feed the trolls. I can’t believe how some of you guys just completely take the bait. 🤣

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/35 "2006-12-26T17:50:05Z")

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> [@neurokinetik](#):
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> Tell that to Realtime Racing (Acura TSX), Tripoint (Mazda 6) etc. Last I checked, they were all doing just fine in Speed World Challenge. I bet it would cost a pretty decent amount of money to buy one of their old cars, too.

Yes, there’s also the Legacy GT running Grand Am(? might’ve gotten the race series wrong). Along with the e90 and e46 sedans running in a bunch of classes in Europe and the US, the IS350s made for ALMS, the 190E Evo III Race cars etc, etc. I was refering to cars in his price range.

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**Author:** ![NA-KING](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/na-king/32/7515_2.png) [@NA-KING](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NA-KING)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/36 "2006-12-26T18:09:58Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> because it’s ugly  
> not fast  
> super ugly  
> interior is garbage  
> looks like a grand am.  
> general suckiness.

:word:

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**Author:** ![rj-92](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rj-92/32/7310_2.png) [@rj-92](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rj-92)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/37 "2006-12-26T19:22:07Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> Rofl, FWD, 4 door sedan as a “track” car? What are you smoking? Get something that actually has “some” resale or usage value as a track car. 944NA, E30, Miata, RX7, etc. SHO’s arent worth SHIT as a track car.

Sure it is. First off, its paid for. Already has the engine, trans, suspension, cooling system, for the track. Only thing left is lighter seats (stock fronts are 120 lbs a piece!) and some 12" brakes and some rubber, (maybe a cage) and I bet it can hold its own. Already ran down a 2000 Viper GTS @ watkins glen. You would be surprised how well that car tracks for what it is. I’d be willing to throw it against almost anyhting on this board as far as a road course goes.

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/38 "2006-12-26T19:35:00Z")

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> [@rj-92](#):
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> Really? I beg to differ. The interior in the GTO is one of GMs best interiors of any car. I wonder how many of you guys wo hate it so much have actaully driven one? I have driven an STI as well and I can assure you, the STi interior is NOT better than the GTO’s. I guess you are thinking, 'oh because its a GM the interior must suck" I can also assure you that it is nothing like a grand am, in any way. I will concure that many GM interiors do infact suck, but the GTO’s isnt one of them. I would even put it nearly on par with my friends 06 330i. And I already bought it.

No, I have driven one.  
I thought it was uncomfortable plastic rubbish.  
The steering wheel stuck out to me as did the dash trim  
Seats felt nice tho  
also imo it is not close to the 330i.

But enjoy the goat.  
They seem to have one nice set of balls in stock form.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/39 "2006-12-26T20:01:39Z")

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> [@rj-92](#):
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> I’d be willing to throw it against almost anyhting on this board as far as a road course goes.

I’ll take that offer.

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**Author:** ![Mike93](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike93/32/7325_2.png) [@Mike93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike93)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2006, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do/22093/40 "2006-12-27T05:53:16Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> I’ll take that offer.

And I’m willing to bet you’d be pretty surprised with how well Ron’s SHO performs…have you even ridden in his car to know what you’re talking about? It’s obvious you’re a SHO hater…that’s fine, there’s many out there.

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