# What was your worst loss to?

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146
**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [September 24, 2003, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146 "2003-09-24T17:54:41Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/201 "2006-01-31T08:46:39Z")

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lose to what exactly\>?

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### Author: ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/202 "2006-01-31T08:53:24Z")

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> [@ssdragon](#):
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> well, the only thing that my car shares with the discontinued cavalier is the car company, for all the lame cavalier jokes nothing on my car is carried over from the cavalier, the real replacement for the cavalier is the aveo which is the lower models from chevy my car performs very well for being n/a 4 cyl and automatic. imo in the world of n/a 4 cyl cars my car lives up to its ss name…

the motor?? :ugh2:

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### Author: ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/203 "2006-01-31T09:05:34Z")

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> [@shaggy](#):
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> should have bought a real ss

> [@ssdragon](#):
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> what do you mean?

maybe he means you should have gotten the SS supercharged model  
instead of the N/A auto tranny model you decided on.

racing N/A auto cobolts & cavys…

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### Author: ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/204 "2006-01-31T09:27:00Z")

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> [@67 RS/SS](#):
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> the motor?? :ugh2:

my motor was never in any cavalier, you are thinking of the n/a 2.2 ecotec fro the later year cavys but they even changed it a little from how it was in the cavys it has a bit more power and electric steering ,

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### Author: ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/205 "2006-01-31T09:30:02Z")

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> [@showtime](#):
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> maybe he means you should have gotten the SS turbo model  
> instead of the N/A auto tranny model you decided on.
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> racing N/A auto cobolts & cavys…

so you are trying to tell me that a naturally aspirated four cylinder automatic transmission that runs low to mid 15’s in the 1/4 mile is not a good performer? show me another 4 cylinder automatic car that is n/a that does that.

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### Author: ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/206 "2006-01-31T09:31:08Z")

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> [@eurodad](#):
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> you would still lose…

i think you are talking about a bigger engine which isnt what im talking about i said 4 cylinder engine you are probably talking about an 8 cylinder

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### Author: ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/207 "2006-01-31T10:14:07Z")

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> [@ssdragon](#):
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> so you are trying to tell me that a naturally aspirated four cylinder automatic transmission that runs low to mid 15’s in the 1/4 mile is not a good performer? show me another 4 cylinder automatic car that is n/a that does that.

i’m saying racing a 4cyl automatic is :greddy:  
if your gonna race it…why the hell did you get an auto?

its not a “Good” performer…its an average performer

i don’t know exact figured off the top of my head but i think there are other 4cyl that run those times? Mazda3, newmiata, RSX, sentra SER, etc…

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### Author: ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/208 "2006-01-31T10:35:37Z")

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> [@ssdragon](#):
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> my motor was never in any cavalier, you are thinking of the n/a 2.2 ecotec fro the later year cavys but they even changed it a little from how it was in the cavys it has a bit more power and electric steering ,

still an ecotec :blue:

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### Author: ![Jenn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Jenn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jenn)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/209 "2006-01-31T10:36:25Z")

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I’ve never lost… never won either…

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### Author: ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/210 "2006-01-31T11:40:47Z")

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> [@showtime](#):
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> i’m saying racing a 4cyl automatic is :greddy:  
> if your gonna race it…why the hell did you get an auto?
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> its not a “Good” performer…its an average performer
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> i don’t know exact figured off the top of my head but i think there are other 4cyl that run those times? Mazda3, newmiata, RSX, sentra SER, etc…

well for many reasons i had to buy an automatic, i do know how to drive a stick…anyway its mostly just a daily driver that i want to be fairly quick nothing wrong with an automatic, i think you misunderstood what i was trying to say, all those cars you listed that do better 1/4’s are manual. i said automatic 4 cyl’s that do better times. so i would say for being an auto 4 it is a great performer

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### Author: ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/211 "2006-01-31T11:41:25Z")

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> [@Jenn](#):
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> I’ve never lost… never won either…

that means you never tried

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### Author: ![Jenn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Jenn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jenn)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/212 "2006-01-31T11:43:23Z")

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ding ding ding ding…

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### Author: ![SonofaBish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@SonofaBish](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SonofaBish)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/213 "2006-01-31T12:06:50Z")

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> [@ssdragon](#):
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> nothing wrong with an automatic

:bsflag: i know, b/c i drive one

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### Author: ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/214 "2006-01-31T12:58:27Z")

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> [@ssdragon](#):
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> for being an auto 4 it is a great performer

ehhhh i think your using the word “great” a little to loosely  
but if you keep your standards low you don’t get disappointed.

> [@ssdragon](#):
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> , i do know how to drive a stick

learn…its not that hard

> [@ssdragon](#):
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> anyway its mostly just a daily driver that i want to be fairly quick nothing wrong with an automatic,

thats fine but then why are you racing it??

> [@ssdragon](#):
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> i think you misunderstood what i was trying to sayperformer

i don’t think i did…you race a 15-16sec automatic…ok so now what.

> [@ssdragon](#):
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> all those cars you listed that do better 1/4’s are manual. i said automatic 4 cyl’s that do better times.

i don’t think they are any slower then the mighty cobolt

they are all 15-16sec cars.

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### Author: ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/215 "2006-01-31T13:05:54Z")

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> [@ssdragon](#):
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> well, the only thing that my car shares with the discontinued cavalier is the car company, for all the lame cavalier jokes nothing on my car is carried over from the cavalier, the real replacement for the cavalier is the aveo

aveo = dawoo  
cav = coblat

ecotech has alot of potential though…

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### Author: ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/216 "2006-01-31T13:14:35Z")

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> [@Jenn](#):
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> ding ding ding ding…

are you against racing or something?

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### Author: ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/217 "2006-01-31T13:15:23Z")

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> [@fmfkid250](#):
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> aveo = dawoo  
> cav = coblat
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> ecotech has alot of potential though…

all i can say is i tried to enlighten you but its all good anyway…

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### Author: ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/218 "2006-01-31T13:23:51Z")

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> [@showtime](#):
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> ehhhh i think your using the word “great” a little to loosely  
> but if you keep your standards low you don’t get disappointed.
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> learn…its not that hard
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> thats fine but then why are you racing it??
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> i don’t think i did…you race a 15-16sec automatic…ok so now what.
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> i don’t think they are any slower then the mighty cobolt
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> they are all 15-16sec cars.

again read what you quoted, i KNOW how to drive a stck but didnt have the oppurtunity to buy one, and in my experience most 4 cyl autos run in the high 16’s to the 20’s in the 1/4 mile is all im trying to say. and im racing it because its fun, that should be a good enough reason, also im not saying that my car is the greatest im just saying i think its a good car with all things considered. please dont be offended or anything im just trying to get my point across

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### Author: ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/219 "2006-01-31T15:44:54Z")

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Damn I didnt know it was N/A thats even more funnier.

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### Author: ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2006, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-was-your-worst-loss-to/162146/220 "2006-01-31T16:40:39Z")

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Dont quit racing, just try and wait for the track to open, an automatic boosted car would be sick,

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