# what would YOU pay for a Supra?! **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [January 16, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410 "2008-01-16T23:46:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![RRx-runner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3da27b/32.png) [@RRx-runner](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RRx-runner)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/41 "2008-01-17T15:33:54Z")
i dont no about taht supra but im sure you can find one closer …i cnt picture you driving a YOTA :wow ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/42 "2008-01-17T16:29:16Z")
Just get something stock like this… [http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-FERRARI-F50-EXTRAORDINARY-COLLECTOR-CAR\_W0QQitemZ220190143982QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item220190143982](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-FERRARI-F50-EXTRAORDINARY-COLLECTOR-CAR_W0QQitemZ220190143982QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item220190143982) but seriously… wait for a bone stock TT hardtop (unless you love the targa) to come along… it will happen eventually ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/43 "2008-01-17T16:39:48Z")
I want a Targa…I have T-tops now and I love them…cant deal without it. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/44 "2008-01-17T16:59:43Z")
well i think that targa supras are a lot more common so thats fortunate. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/45 "2008-01-17T17:13:43Z")
Auto hard top are the rare. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/46 "2008-01-17T18:33:17Z")
> [@Boostin Camaro](#): > > > [@Cossey](#): > > > > You do know both the N/A and TT supra came w/ the 2JZ, right? > > I wouldn’t doubt it if this guy just did stuf to the stock NA motor. > > Salvage title, I’ll pass. > > Already modified, I’ll pass. > > The motor isn’t the only thing different between the NA and TT. The TT had much better brakes and suspension pieces. The rear differential isn’t nearly as good, and the transmission is only the 5MT. > > I wouldn’t pay more than $12.5k for an Mk IV N/A Supra. > > > > Buying a modified car is like buying a used tampon. > > Last time I checked…The TT supras came with the 2JZ motor and the N/A ones had the J2Z…they have different internals…I believe they are NOT the same motors. The most incorrect statement you’ve made so far. the NA motors were 2JZ-GE and the TT’s were 2JZ-GTE. Different internals and heads, yes. But 2JZ is a family of engines, not just the ‘2JZ no shit’. It’s almost like someone saying "oh sweet, that Civic has a B18 in it.’ ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/47 "2008-01-17T19:18:53Z")
The NA and TT are _NOT_ the same engine. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/48 "2008-01-17T20:05:18Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > The NA and TT are _NOT_ the same engine. this was my exact point…sorry I didnt get the exact name of the engines correct…I was stating that a NA 2jz and the TT 2JZ are not nearly the same besides the Block itself. soooo say its the most incorrect statement, yet in reality, I just got the actual engine names confused. ---
**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/49 "2008-01-17T20:28:39Z")
If you’re not trying to spend a lot of money, I’d say forget about getting a MKIV Supra TT and modding it… I’d been sweating one for a long long time… Back in '99 I test drove a couple- one automatic, one 6 spd. The 6 spd one was a '94, with like 70k on the clock, and I think he wanted like 27 or 28k for it (at the time). I was in no position to buy (nor am I now) then but wanted one bad. Today, 8 years later, the same vehicle with maybe 80-90k miles would probably still fetch 23k-24k. Totally not worth it for me, I still love the car but would rather spend that money on something else, but that’s just me. If you like the idea of the 2JZ, and are mechanically inclined (which you seem to be) and looking for a project, I have the following ideas: 1. Buy a MA70 (MKIII) Supra for about $4,000- set aside $10k to get a nice 2JZ-GTE and another few thousand for the buildup. You can have a pretty bad a$$ car, lots of HP, and something rare. The swap is tough I read, but not impossible. Due to the infamous blown head gasket on the 7M-GTE engines, you may be able to find a MKIII turbo with a case of it for like $1500 bucks with a nice body. That leaves you a lot to play with for your engine/turbo/driveline/brakes/suspension. 2. If you want to try something just as rare and maybe a bit less costly- get the MA70 and go for the 1JZ-GTE swap. This is the 2.5L twin turbo six that came with some later versions of the 3rd Gen Supra (chassis code was JZA70 I believe). I think it has a slightly smaller stroke and a bit less torque, but people have built them to 600+ HP no problem. Plus with upgraded interals and valvetrain you can spin these to like 9K RPM. The swap should be cheaper and so should the engine, though it was never really sold in the US. I think market demand (and Fast & Frustrated) totally jacked up market prices for the 2JZ-GTE but the 1JZ-GTE isn’t as affected. 3. Buy a MKIV Supra NA with a 5 spd for no more than $10K. [Suprastore.com](http://Suprastore.com) and I think even F-Max sold turbo kits for it in the $4k-$5k range back in the day… Or you can buy your own pieces and make a pretty nice setup. Don’t know if it would hold 500+ whp without work to the 2JZ-GE (N/A version). I’m no expert but you should research heavily. As others have pointed out, the suspension, brakes, and tranny are all not as heavy duty as the one on the bad boy TT version. The 6 spd Getrag has been known to be reliable even at high HP levels- I doubt the 5 spd is all that. So this option may be costly in the long run if you want big HP as you will need to fortify your trans (and the rest of the driveline). In any case, the above would be what I would consider if I had $20K to play with and wanted a high HP Supra. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/50 "2008-01-17T21:19:10Z")
> [@Boostin Camaro](#): > > > [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > > > The NA and TT are _NOT_ the same engine. > > this was my exact point…sorry I didnt get the exact name of the engines correct…I was stating that a NA 2jz and the TT 2JZ are not nearly the same besides the Block itself. > > soooo say its the most incorrect statement, yet in reality, I just got the actual engine names confused. Ah. I am not following but that’s ok. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/51 "2008-01-17T21:39:14Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > > [@Boostin Camaro](#): > > > > > [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > > > > > The NA and TT are _NOT_ the same engine. > > > > this was my exact point…sorry I didnt get the exact name of the engines correct…I was stating that a NA 2jz and the TT 2JZ are not nearly the same besides the Block itself. > > > > soooo say its the most incorrect statement, yet in reality, I just got the actual engine names confused. > > Ah. I am not following but that’s ok. sorry…only the first part of that was directed, and agreeing with you…the rest was directed towards Cossey ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/52 "2008-01-17T21:49:03Z")
> [@OsoiNA6](#): > > If you’re not trying to spend a lot of money, I’d say forget about getting a MKIV Supra TT and modding it… > > I’d been sweating one for a long long time… Back in '99 I test drove a couple- one automatic, one 6 spd. > > The 6 spd one was a '94, with like 70k on the clock, and I think he wanted like 27 or 28k for it (at the time). I was in no position to buy (nor am I now) then but wanted one bad. > > Today, 8 years later, the same vehicle with maybe 80-90k miles would probably still fetch 23k-24k. Totally not worth it for me, I still love the car but would rather spend that money on something else, but that’s just me. > > If you like the idea of the 2JZ, and are mechanically inclined (which you seem to be) and looking for a project, I have the following ideas: > > 1. Buy a MA70 (MKIII) Supra for about $4,000- set aside $10k to get a nice 2JZ-GTE and another few thousand for the buildup. You can have a pretty bad a$$ car, lots of HP, and something rare. The swap is tough I read, but not impossible. Due to the infamous blown head gasket on the 7M-GTE engines, you may be able to find a MKIII turbo with a case of it for like $1500 bucks with a nice body. That leaves you a lot to play with for your engine/turbo/driveline/brakes/suspension. > > 2. If you want to try something just as rare and maybe a bit less costly- get the MA70 and go for the 1JZ-GTE swap. This is the 2.5L twin turbo six that came with some later versions of the 3rd Gen Supra (chassis code was JZA70 I believe). I think it has a slightly smaller stroke and a bit less torque, but people have built them to 600+ HP no problem. Plus with upgraded interals and valvetrain you can spin these to like 9K RPM. The swap should be cheaper and so should the engine, though it was never really sold in the US. I think market demand (and Fast & Frustrated) totally jacked up market prices for the 2JZ-GTE but the 1JZ-GTE isn’t as affected. > > 3. Buy a MKIV Supra NA with a 5 spd for no more than $10K. [Suprastore.com](http://Suprastore.com) and I think even F-Max sold turbo kits for it in the $4k-$5k range back in the day… Or you can buy your own pieces and make a pretty nice setup. Don’t know if it would hold 500+ whp without work to the 2JZ-GE (N/A version). I’m no expert but you should research heavily. As others have pointed out, the suspension, brakes, and tranny are all not as heavy duty as the one on the bad boy TT version. The 6 spd Getrag has been known to be reliable even at high HP levels- I doubt the 5 spd is all that. So this option may be costly in the long run if you want big HP as you will need to fortify your trans (and the rest of the driveline). > > In any case, the above would be what I would consider if I had $20K to play with and wanted a high HP Supra. Theirs just something about a 3rd gen supra that really attracts me…i have been talking about possibly getting one for nearly a year now. It would be cool to drop a 2JZ into a different car and make it a rocket, however…thats not what kind of plans I have. I like the whole 3rd gen TT supra to begin with…and honestly, dumping a shit load of money into it over a coarse of a few years doesnt bother/scare me one bit…as far as my mechanic abilities…I know ALOT and im still learning Alot…as all of us are. I Built the whole turbo kit on my camaro, with home tools and trial and error…started out not knowing much about them…and learning about them so much that I know my car like i know the palm of my hand…Hell, I created 4 different style turbo kits, before I finally created/ found the one that I was looking for…incase your wondering why i made the kit…well, they dont make one for our 98-02 3.8 camaros (ya, its shitty) as far as Modding the Supra would go…I would just get a TT last gen supra…and convert it to a nice, single turbo (like the one on my car, turbonetics T72)…boost it to 20psi (which It can handle on a stock motor) and call it a day…not looking to make a street legal death trap…but a car I can bring to a car show, and perform like it should…600whp is very reasonable on a stock 2JZ…and that would be my goal. ---
**Author:** ![Fn\_Skanks](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fn_skanks/32/6308_2.png) [@Fn\_Skanks](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fn_Skanks)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/53 "2008-01-17T23:50:01Z")
just take out a loan. :sleep ---
**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2008, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/54 "2008-01-18T01:15:07Z")
> [@germanmusclecars](#): > > just take out a loan. :sleep lol for what 40K??? -17500 for the car -T72 turbo -and what if the motor is at the point where its ready to explode, but not showing anything to give u a warning, (ask sean about that) -And what about insurance… kiss that good buy with one ticket of anything… there not stupid… u have a supra… its like owning a lambo and saying its automatic to state farm or whoever… -When u buy it u better make sure to tell them u got it for 500 or something unless u take out a loan then your screwed b/c sales tax is 8% on whatever u buy. for registration My friend derek just got a 97 TT 6spd, for 29K last september, from canada, he searched for 3 years before he finally found “the one”. 89K driven only on weekends and what not. he happened to drive by there house coming home from hardrock cafe’ and it was on there front lawn. they didnt advistise it. Just keep looking. there 3-6 around here gen 3. ask one of those guys when they show up at the meets, or in lake geoge ---
**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2008, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/55 "2008-01-18T03:16:40Z")
> [@Boostin Camaro](#): > > Theirs just something about a 3rd gen supra that really attracts me…i have been talking about possibly getting one for nearly a year now. It would be cool to drop a 2JZ into a different car and make it a rocket, however…thats not what kind of plans I have. I like the whole 3rd gen TT supra to begin with…and honestly, dumping a shit load of money into it over a coarse of a few years doesnt bother/scare me one bit…as far as my mechanic abilities…I know ALOT and im still learning Alot…as all of us are. I Built the whole turbo kit on my camaro, with home tools and trial and error…started out not knowing much about them…and learning about them so much that I know my car like i know the palm of my hand…Hell, I created 4 different style turbo kits, before I finally created/ found the one that I was looking for…incase your wondering why i made the kit…well, they dont make one for our 98-02 3.8 camaros (ya, its shitty) > > as far as Modding the Supra would go…I would just get a TT last gen supra…and convert it to a nice, single turbo (like the one on my car, turbonetics T72)…boost it to 20psi (which It can handle on a stock motor) and call it a day…not looking to make a street legal death trap…but a car I can bring to a car show, and perform like it should…600whp is very reasonable on a stock 2JZ…and that would be my goal. I think you mean 4th Gen rather than 3rd Gen right… But if you insist on that route, I really am skeptical as to putting together a 500-600whp single turboed MKIV for under $30K, after buying the car… You may luck out and find a 6 spd MKIV already converted to single turbo for upper $20s, they exist but be ready to buy since they go quick. If you are open to going automatic you might be able to find one for $2-$3k less, but I guess you’d need to make sure the auto tranny has been modified somewhat to handle the power. :stfu :stfu ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2008, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/56 "2008-01-18T05:10:16Z")
2JZ… J2Z…MkIV…3rd gen… :ponder stick with your camaro. Swap in a v8 and turbo that. You should be happy then. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2008, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/57 "2008-01-18T05:21:12Z")
:rofl ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2008, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/58 "2008-01-18T07:21:22Z")
Werd. I said the N/A and TT have the same engine family. And I am correct. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2008, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/59 "2008-01-18T07:28:32Z")
all the JZ’s are the same family, but I believe the only major thing that is the same between the 2JZ-GTE and the 2JZ-GE is the block itself… the manifolds arent even interchangable, different head, internals, etc. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2008, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410/60 "2008-01-18T07:34:03Z")
Correct. But it still bugs me when someone only refers to the TT as the ‘2JZ’. ![http://astrx.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/2jz.jpg](http://astrx.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/2jz.jpg) There you go. 2JZ w/ NAS. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-would-you-pay-for-a-supra/235410.md?page=4)