# Whats better HICAS Rear or Non? **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [March 27, 2010, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275 "2010-03-27T10:33:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Masked](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/masked/32/5784_2.png) [@Masked](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Masked)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/1 "2010-03-27T10:33:58Z")
Always puzzled me as to why people would take out their HICAS rear end on their 240s. Can anyone tell me why & whats better about doing so ---
**Author:** ![Hacknik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba9def/32.png) [@Hacknik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hacknik)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/2 "2010-03-27T10:39:55Z")
It’s old, leaks, sometimes likes to work. Personally, I just don’t like the way it feels. I’m in the process of swapping to a non-hicas subframe + solid bushings. ---
**Author:** ![d1kingz1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/d1kingz1/32/5607_2.png) [@d1kingz1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d1kingz1)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/3 "2010-03-27T10:55:55Z")
I hate the feeling of hicas. Feels like youre getting sideways when your actually not. Good for grip, horrible for drift. ---
**Author:** ![Masked](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/masked/32/5784_2.png) [@Masked](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Masked)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/4 "2010-03-27T11:27:26Z")
lol ok thanks. What exactally do i need to switch out my hicas for a non? ---
**Author:** ![m\_wolfenden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@m\_wolfenden](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/m_wolfenden)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/5 "2010-03-27T11:29:49Z")
switch the subframe or buy a hicas lock bar…then u need to get a non hicas power steering pump or just delete your power steering ---
**Author:** ![MIKE-240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike-240sx/32/5665_2.png) [@MIKE-240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MIKE-240sx)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/6 "2010-03-27T11:46:50Z")
Fuck hicas, shit works randomly and i hate it ---
**Author:** ![d1kingz1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/d1kingz1/32/5607_2.png) [@d1kingz1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d1kingz1)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/7 "2010-03-27T12:33:58Z")
exactly what wolfenden said. ---
**Author:** ![mrcraka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5ac83/32.png) [@mrcraka](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mrcraka)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/8 "2010-03-27T13:07:44Z")
take it out, a rear subframe without Hicas WEIGHS less, and performs better 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Masked](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/masked/32/5784_2.png) [@Masked](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Masked)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/9 "2010-03-27T14:04:23Z")
alright true lol thanks ---
**Author:** ![mrcraka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5ac83/32.png) [@mrcraka](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mrcraka)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/10 "2010-03-27T16:17:11Z")
no problem :), I am trying to even get it done on my car ---
**Author:** ![I\_3-SR20DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@I\_3-SR20DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/I_3-SR20DET)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/11 "2010-03-27T16:17:44Z")
non hicas is responsive and you tell it what to do it doesnt scare you lol i just swapped in a jdm s14 subframe in my s13 and that did 5 lug too better diff and all ---
**Author:** ![Masked](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/masked/32/5784_2.png) [@Masked](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Masked)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/12 "2010-03-27T16:43:06Z")
yea my hicas is garbage lol. i think it has only worked all of once that ive noticed. ---
**Author:** ![ronnie416](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ronnie416/32/5480_2.png) [@ronnie416](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ronnie416)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/13 "2010-03-27T17:58:58Z")
OP - Your question was answered already ten times, so I don’t need to. Take it out. 🙂 But… I HATE YOUR SIGNATURE - TAKE IT OUT PLEASE!!! ---
**Author:** ![Masked](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/masked/32/5784_2.png) [@Masked](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Masked)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/14 "2010-03-27T18:48:23Z")
> [@ronnie416](#): > > OP - Your question was answered already ten times, so I don’t need to. Take it out. 🙂 > > But… > > I HATE YOUR SIGNATURE - TAKE IT OUT PLEASE!!! Why do you hate it? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ronnie416](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ronnie416/32/5480_2.png) [@ronnie416](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ronnie416)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/15 "2010-03-27T18:53:18Z")
I’m just fucking with you dude. Don’t worry about me. 😃 I just think it’s a little silly, but that’s just me. I mean, I have TINY balls, I love the track!!! I do like golf too…but meh, whatever. I just don’t that kind of mentality, like only testoserone filled big balled MEN like to race and like to play on the track. I mean, lemme as you this, the last time you were on the track did you think to your self, “Man, my balls are really really big right now!!!” Cuz last time I was on track, the only thing I was thinking was, “Man, I’m having a shitload of FUN!” and I certainly don’t think that it requires you to have big balls to go racing. hahahahah. ---
**Author:** ![Masked](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/masked/32/5784_2.png) [@Masked](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Masked)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/16 "2010-03-27T21:02:30Z")
lol its not about track racing :P. Ive been on the track all of 2 times last season and all that was going through my head was… “shiiiit i dont wanna crash my baby” lol. ---
**Author:** ![ronnie416](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ronnie416/32/5480_2.png) [@ronnie416](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ronnie416)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/17 "2010-03-27T21:04:00Z")
> [@It\_\_Just\_I\_S](#): > > lol its not about track racing :P. Ive been on the track all of 2 times last season and all that was going through my head was… “shiiiit i dont wanna crash my baby” lol. What kind of racing is it about that needs “real balls” than? hahaha. ---
**Author:** ![Ciaran](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ciaran/32/5612_2.png) [@Ciaran](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ciaran)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/18 "2010-03-27T21:43:59Z")
golf is way harder then track driving… lol ---
**Author:** ![ronnie416](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ronnie416/32/5480_2.png) [@ronnie416](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ronnie416)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/19 "2010-03-27T21:45:49Z")
> [@breaker77](#): > > golf is way harder then track driving… lol To be as good as Tiger, yeah…but remember…next time you’re putting from the rough, look down and see if you have balls. 😃 And check to see if they’re real. ---
**Author:** ![LockeD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LockeD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LockeD)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275/20 "2010-03-28T01:57:42Z")
it doesnt take balls to push the limits of your vehicle? [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-better-hicas-rear-or-non/152275.md?page=2)