# whats this? a running vr4?!? ummm yes

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-this-a-running-vr4-ummm-yes/252375
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [May 31, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-this-a-running-vr4-ummm-yes/252375 "2010-05-31T14:45:23Z")
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### Author: ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-this-a-running-vr4-ummm-yes/252375/15 "2010-06-03T18:44:47Z")

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> [@welll OOPS @ MSG TV last nite, check this pic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/welll-oops-msg-tv-last-nite-check-this-pic/32320/13):
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> Are these cars really all that bad if you leave them stock?
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> or are they just blowing up all the time because everyone who buys one tries to achieve warp speed

I had two VR4’s and daily drove them, modded. They get a bad rap because of morons who mod them with cheap parts without supporting mods.

One things I can say for sure as a con is, they SUCK to do any sort of DIY work on. Holy fuck.

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