# whats this? a running vr4?!? ummm yes

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [May 31, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-this-a-running-vr4-ummm-yes/252375 "2010-05-31T14:45:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-this-a-running-vr4-ummm-yes/252375/19 "2010-06-06T19:25:34Z")

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> [@welll OOPS @ MSG TV last nite, check this pic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/welll-oops-msg-tv-last-nite-check-this-pic/32320/13):
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> Are these cars really all that bad if you leave them stock?
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> or are they just blowing up all the time because everyone who buys one tries to achieve warp speed

They aren’t “bad” if you mod them.

The problem is that they are:

1. Difficult to work on
2. EXPENSIVE aftermarket
3. In the hands of kids

BTW, gorgeous paint. What Wax/Sealant?

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