# What's wrong with autox??? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [June 2, 2008, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407 "2008-06-02T13:19:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/241 "2008-06-05T08:56:33Z")
> [@Tunerfreak](#): > > what about the lot where the Ames use to be right by coyotes on george urban. that rarely ever gets used and there is a lot of space there there is some wicked nasty potholes in there though > [@rushman](#): > > I drove by fantasy island last night but didn’t pull in. I’ll be out that way again tonight and this time I’ll try and swing in and check out the surface. i thought that lot was gravel ? I hit it all the time in the winter but never have been there when it was not snow covered. ---
**Author:** ![MXS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mxs/32/7507_2.png) [@MXS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MXS)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/242 "2008-06-05T13:21:16Z")
> [@chino](#): > > i thought that lot was gravel ? I hit it all the time in the winter but never have been there when it was not snow covered. Does this link work? Looks like the top 2/3 is paved, though that bottom section might be gravel [http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=43.026849~-78.971151&style=h&lvl=18&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=18934707&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1](http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=43.026849%7E-78.971151&style=h&lvl=18&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=18934707&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1) ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/243 "2008-06-05T13:25:14Z")
Uhhh helllo You want to run at fantasy island during the summer in their parking lot? ---
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/244 "2008-06-05T13:25:57Z")
Not during the summer - in the spring before they open for business ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/245 "2008-06-05T13:26:43Z")
ralph wilson maybe? That lot is HUGE ---
**Author:** ![MXS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mxs/32/7507_2.png) [@MXS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MXS)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/246 "2008-06-05T13:55:52Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Uhhh helllo Hi 👋 ---
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/247 "2008-06-05T14:01:06Z")
> [@Dr.Stevil](#): > > ralph wilson maybe? That lot is HUGE And most of the pavement sucks, but what is good, they had no interested in talking to us. However, if you know someone on the inside there, that would go a long way. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/248 "2008-06-05T14:03:43Z")
my uncle has some connections actually… I’ll ask him about it this weekend ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/249 "2008-06-05T14:06:05Z")
Tarmac rally cross @ Ralph Wilson ? ---
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/250 "2008-06-05T14:12:10Z")
doesn’t tarmac rallyx = autox? ---
**Author:** ![MXS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mxs/32/7507_2.png) [@MXS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MXS)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/251 "2008-06-05T14:14:01Z")
Depends how much gravel is down?? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/252 "2008-06-05T15:20:01Z")
what about church’s? some of them have HUGE parking lots and they’re usually nicely paved ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/253 "2008-06-05T16:41:11Z")
^ Even being the non-religious type that I am I’m pretty sure Sunday is a pretty big day for churches. Haven’t seen one with a parking lot big enough for autocrossing anyway. Maybe the meglochurch over by Geico. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/254 "2008-06-05T17:32:33Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > ^ Even being the non-religious type that I am I’m pretty sure Sunday is a pretty big day for churches. > > Haven’t seen one with a parking lot big enough for autocrossing anyway. Maybe the meglochurch over by Geico. good point, didn’t think about that. [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=42.752015,-78.810478&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr](http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=42.752015,-78.810478&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr) my buddy got married here a few months back and the parking lot was huge… tons of parking, not to mention it’s in great shape. ---
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/255 "2008-06-05T18:04:05Z")
I know it looks huge, but the islands and the funny shape means it might be useless. If you have to go from one lot to another, it has to be a wide opening that you can safely traverse at speed. From the picture, it looks like it might be an issue. Definitely something that has to be looked at in person. Jon and I drove through Fantasy Island…it has promise… ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/256 "2008-06-05T18:11:33Z")
> [@Dr.Stevil](#): > > good point, didn’t think about that. > > [Google Maps](http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=42.752015,-78.810478&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr) > > my buddy got married here a few months back and the parking lot was huge… tons of parking, not to mention it’s in great shape. Honestly, that looks quite a bit smaller than ECC-N. Hard to say without actually looking at it in person, but after scouting a few in person I thought were big on google maps my guess is that wouldn’t work. Don’t let me discourage you though because I can almost guarantee there is some great lot in WNY that someone just hasn’t found yet. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/257 "2008-06-05T18:12:48Z")
yeah, like I said… never done this before so not sure on sizes and such, but it’s definitely worth checking out. That picture is deceiving as the church is enormous. ---
**Author:** ![dp2387](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dp2387](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dp2387)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/258 "2008-06-06T02:51:10Z")
Just to give a perspective of what I’m thinking when I hear “its a huge lot” Fed Ex Field [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=FedEx+Field,+United+States&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.111473,112.148438&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=0,38.908295,-76.864930&t=h&z=16](http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=FedEx+Field,+United+States&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.111473,112.148438&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=0,38.908295,-76.864930&t=h&z=16) Toledo Airport (spare pad there) [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Toledo+Express+Airport,+United+States&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=0,41.592320,-83.807210&ll=41.580734,-83.820877&spn=0.002913,0.006845&t=h&z=18](http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Toledo+Express+Airport,+United+States&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=0,41.592320,-83.807210&ll=41.580734,-83.820877&spn=0.002913,0.006845&t=h&z=18) Devens Commerce Center [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=fort+devens&ie=UTF8&ll=42.572567,-71.603715&spn=0.005736,0.01369&t=h&z=17](http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=fort+devens&ie=UTF8&ll=42.572567,-71.603715&spn=0.005736,0.01369&t=h&z=17) I mean, these are sites where national events are held, so I’m not saying anything less than these are unacceptable. But it gives an idea as to why finding good sites is so tough. ---
**Author:** ![rushman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@rushman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rushman)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/259 "2008-06-06T03:58:33Z")
Yeah, Fantasy island will be on our to-call list for early events next year. I work right by the Ralph. The big lots are basically gravel. Everything else is sectioned off in a way that makes each portion too small to be better then ECCN. That and when I called them last year they were “Not interested in that type of event” Keep it up guys, this is helpfull. Anyone have an in at the niagara falls airport???. Usage is still low there, and I’m pretty sure the airforce moved their big planes out of there already. The pad at the reserve side of it would be nice 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 4:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-wrong-with-autox/49407/260 "2008-06-06T04:01:22Z")
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