# where will all end up with gas prices

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**Created:** [April 18, 2011, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/where-will-all-end-up-with-gas-prices/257952 "2011-04-18T09:34:29Z")
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### Author: ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2011, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/where-will-all-end-up-with-gas-prices/257952/14 "2011-04-20T12:23:37Z")

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> [@Why does my semi-legal CS3 not work?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-does-my-semi-legal-cs3-not-work/41382/11):
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> electric or bio fuel…you guys ever see a compressed air engine? in a car?
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> also check out steam power…
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> and a wood gasifer
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> maybe propane? or other cheaper natural gasses?
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> man powered cars? like flint stones? some recumbrent bikes hit over 60mph and worlds fastest it nuts
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> also check out cars that run on piss incredible what you can do today

Wood gasifier -

> Efficiency of the gasifier system is relatively high. The gasification stage converts about 75% of fuel energy content into a combustible gas that can be used as a fuel for internal combustion engines. Based on long-term practical experiments and over 100,000 km drive with a wood gas-powered car, the energy consumption has been 1.54 times higher compared to the energy demand of the same car on petrol (not including the energy needed to extract, transport and refine the oil from which petrol is derived). This means that 1000 kg of wood combustible matter has been found to substitute 365 litres of petrol during real transportation in similar driving conditions and with the same otherwise unmodified vehicle.

we are running low on wood now and it’s becoming an issue, imagine what would happen if we started running mass scale auto’s on this system.

Compressed air -

> The principal disadvantage is the indirect use of energy. Energy is used to compress air, which - in turn - provides the energy to run the motor. Any conversion of energy between forms results in loss. For conventional combustion motor cars, the energy is lost when chemical energy in fossil fuels is converted to heat energy, most of which goes to waste. For compressed-air cars, energy is lost when chemical energy is converted to electrical energy, and then when electrical energy is converted to compressed air.

How is this efficient?

Don’t even get me started on steam power in practical application.

What’s next, a bedini motor as a suggestion?

Solar/Electric/Hydrogen are some of the only viable alternatives.

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