# Where's Your Plate?

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [May 10, 2012, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716 "2012-05-10T07:46:10Z")
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### Author: ![Upstate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b3f665/32.png) [@Upstate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Upstate)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2012, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/1 "2012-05-10T07:46:10Z")

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I’ve been stopped twice in the past two weeks for having an “illegally mounted plate” after having it in the same place for the past 3 years. Where do you guys mount your plates, particularly those of you with undertail exhausts? I noticed from other pics such as Gen. Patton’s that our’s in similar spots, I’m just looking to avoid future hassle if I can. During the second stop by Albany PD they told me they would be cracking down on this this summer.

![http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/UpstateCivic/Plate.jpg](http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/UpstateCivic/Plate.jpg)

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### Author: ![GenPatton](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/genpatton/32/6760_2.png) [@GenPatton](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GenPatton)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2012, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/2 "2012-05-10T07:53:36Z")

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Have you been ticketed or just warned? I had the plate in the same spot on my ZX6R 636 as well. Yoshi does sell a fender eliminator for the RS-5 that wraps around the exhaust, but it was pretty gaudy.

As you can see, same on my ZX6R:

 ![http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f247/ASNYPatton/6364.jpg](http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f247/ASNYPatton/6364.jpg)

and now also on my R6:

 ![http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f247/ASNYPatton/HDR5-1.jpg](http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f247/ASNYPatton/HDR5-1.jpg)

I guess time will tell if they hassle me. My dad who I ride with said he can barely see my plate when he is following me. x\_x

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### Author: ![Upstate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b3f665/32.png) [@Upstate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Upstate)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2012, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/3 "2012-05-10T08:06:11Z")

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First time stopped by a Trooper on 87 was a warning (thank you, get out of jail free card); second time on Central by APD he ticketed me for overdue inspection rather than the plate. The Trooper told me he couldn’t see my plate at all when I’d hit a bump, and I’ve heard that from others. APD told me it couldn’t be in front of the wheel, has to come after it.

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### Author: ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2012, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/4 "2012-05-10T09:15:42Z")

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N.Y. VAT. LAW § 381 : NY Code - Section 381: Motorcycle equipment

1. (a) Every motorcycle, driven upon the  
public highways of this state, shall be provided with adequate brakes in  
good working order and sufficient to control such motorcycle at all  
times, when the same is in use, a suitable and adequate bell, horn or  
other device for signaling, one red to amber stop lamp and shall,  
whenever such motorcycle is being operated upon the public highways of  
the state, display one lighted lamp in front and one on the rear, or,  
when such motorcycle is operated with a passenger or other truck  
attached to the side or front two such lamps on the front and one on the  
rear; and in all cases the lamps on a motorcycle shall include a red  
light visible from the rear. **The rays of such rear lamp shall shine upon  
the number plate carried on the rear of such motorcycle in such manner  
as to render the numerals thereon visible for at least fifty feet in the  
direction from which the motorcycle is proceeding.** The light of the  
front lamp or lamps shall be visible at least two hundred feet in the  
direction in which the motorcycle is proceeding. Every such motorcycle  
shall have a suitable muffler or device to prevent unnecessary noise  
from exhaust gases, and the use of so-called “cut-outs” is prohibited.

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<b>13. A violation of any of the provisions of this section shall be

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punishable by a fine not exceeding _one hundred dollars_ or by  
imprisonment for not exceeding thirty days, or by both such fine and  
imprisonment.

AND: Section 402

1. (a) No  
person shall operate, drive or park a motor vehicle on the public  
highways of this state unless such vehicle shall have a distinctive  
number assigned to it by the commissioner and a set of number plates  
issued by the commissioner with a number and other identification matter  
if any, corresponding to that of the certificate of registration  
conspicuously displayed, **one on the front and one on the rear of such  
vehicle, each securely fastened so as to prevent the same from swinging  
and placed, whenever reasonably possible, not higher than forty-eight  
inches and not lower than twelve inches from the ground;** provided,  
however, **that in any registration year for which only one number plate  
is issued, such number plate shall constitute a set of number plates for  
the time in which such use is authorized, shall be displayed on the rear  
of the vehicle** and none shall be displayed on its front, except in case  
of a tractor, when such number plate shall be displayed on the front of  
the vehicle and none shall be displayed on its rear.  
(b) Number plates shall be kept clean and in a condition so as to be  
easily readable and shall not be covered by glass or any plastic  
material, and shall not be knowingly covered or coated with any  
artificial or synthetic material or substance that conceals or obscures  
such number plates or that distorts a recorded or photographic image of  
such number plates, and the view of such number plates shall not be  
obstructed by any part of the vehicle or by anything carried thereon,  
except for a receiver-transmitter issued by a publicly owned tolling  
facility in connection with electronic toll collection when such  
receiver-transmitter is affixed to the exterior of a vehicle in  
accordance with mounting instructions provided by the tolling facility.

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8. The violation of this section shall be punishable by a<b> fine of not

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less than twenty-five nor more than two hundred dollars.

The first one is placement on vehicle, second on is more so for not having plates on the vechicle, or having stolen plates, plates off another car, covered or modified plates, etc.

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### Author: ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2012, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/5 "2012-05-10T09:18:42Z")

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So, more or less it has to be visible from 50 feet BEHIND the bike. Lit up with a light. Cant be swinging, or able to swing. Cant be covered with anything. Has to be in the rear. (not necessarily behind the rear tire like that one cop said). And cant be less than 12" off the ground… IE swing arm mounts might not fly if they are too low.

Print these out and keep them in your wallet for the next time you get yanked!

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### Author: ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2012, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/6 "2012-05-10T09:52:00Z")

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So when they say rear of the motorcycle they mean in the middle (aka in front of the rear wheel’s hub)?

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### Author: ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2012, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/7 "2012-05-10T10:17:18Z")

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> [@91 Beretta nut and bolt nightmare](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/91-beretta-nut-and-bolt-nightmare/49501/23):
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> So when they say rear of the motorcycle they mean in the middle (aka in front of the rear wheel’s hub)?

its up to interpretation I guess. Could also assume anything less than the very point on the tail would be less than the “rear” too.

Rear within reason, so if there are no other fixture points that would put the plate facing the back of the bike, under tail but visible from 50 feet behind it should be considers “rear” enough. the law sure as shit doesnt say anything about “behind the rear tire” thats for sure.

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### Author: ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2012, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/8 "2012-05-10T10:31:22Z")

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> [@Official: NHL Playoff Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/685):
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> **its up to interpretation I guess.** Could also assume anything less than the very point on the tail would be less than the “rear” too.
> 
> Rear within reason, so if there are no other fixture points that would put the plate facing the back of the bike, under tail but visible from 50 feet behind it should be considers “rear” enough. the law sure as shit doesnt say anything about “behind the rear tire” thats for sure.

Yup, but not ours… the governments

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### Author: ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2012, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/9 "2012-05-10T10:47:07Z")

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![http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/41577_214635996312_5395408_n.jpg](http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/41577_214635996312_5395408_n.jpg)

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### Author: ![HTA86\_Evo\_IX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6bbea6/32.png) [@HTA86\_Evo\_IX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HTA86_Evo_IX)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2012, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/10 "2012-05-10T11:29:30Z")

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right where it is supposed to be.

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### Author: ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2012, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/11 "2012-05-10T11:58:11Z")

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/\ Still behind the counter at DMV? LOL

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### Author: ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/12 "2012-05-10T15:06:37Z")

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I mount it under the tailight away from the swing arm, because I like suspension travel. :rofl

> [@Official: NHL Playoff Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/685):
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> its up to interpretation I guess. Could also assume anything less than the very point on the tail would be less than the “rear” too.

> [@NYSpeed Watkins Glen (IRL) Showcase - July 4th, 5th & 6th 2008! \*Now With TRACK TIME!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-watkins-glen-irl-showcase-july-4th-5th-6th-2008-now-with-track-time/45532/142):
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> Yup, but not ours… the governments

All road legal motorcycle sold CAME with a DOT approved license plate mounting spot, can’t blame the gov’ for enforcing the law because we choose to modify the OEM mounting location.

Just saying.

\*FYI, my R6 also had an aftermarket (read DIY) plate mount that came with the bike. It is under the taillight near the end of the tail, never had an issue with the 5-0’s.

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### Author: ![HTA86\_Evo\_IX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6bbea6/32.png) [@HTA86\_Evo\_IX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HTA86_Evo_IX)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/13 "2012-05-10T19:15:36Z")

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> [@FS: 03 s2k Updated price again](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-03-s2k-updated-price-again/49495/29):
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> /\ Still behind the counter at DMV? LOL

oh no, i got one of the last white and blue plates a few years back :excited

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### Author: ![Oleg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/oleg/32/6276_2.png) [@Oleg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oleg)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/14 "2012-05-10T20:14:44Z")

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Bought mine from the dealer with the plate hanging in front of the wheel same as fist post, so I moved it back under the taillight. Some creative bending, grinding and drilling allowed to keep the light for it as well. Haven’t been pulled over yet.

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### Author: ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/15 "2012-05-11T04:59:15Z")

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> [@FS: 94-97 Integra Complete Black Leather Interior, Katzkin, NEW \*pic\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-94-97-integra-complete-black-leather-interior-katzkin-new-pic/49185/5):
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> I mount it under the tailight away from the swing arm, because I like suspension travel. :rofl
> 
> **All road legal motorcycle sold CAME with a DOT approved license plate mounting spot, can’t blame the gov’ for enforcing the law because we choose to modify the OEM mounting location.**
> 
>  
> 
> **Just saying.**
> 
> \*FYI, my R6 also had an aftermarket (read DIY) plate mount that came with the bike. It is under the taillight near the end of the tail, never had an issue with the 5-0’s.

Nailed it on the head.

Its the same with modifying cars, tint, exhausts, etc. are all things that can be illegal its just whether or not police are busting down on those things. Gotta pay to play!

But most aftermarket undertail kits that come with a new bracket are basically in the same place as the stock one just a lot less gaudy.

Another thing is people that bend there plate because they directly mount it to the undertail, which I believe it is also illegal to bend a plate.

To the OP, where have you been getting stopped? Same area? Just wondering as I have a good friend who has his plate mounted in the same spot and hasn’t been pulled over in the 3 years he has had it there.

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### Author: ![Gundamzeppelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Gundamzeppelin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gundamzeppelin)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/16 "2012-05-11T05:33:11Z")

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in the legal spot to avoid hassle.  
 ![http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg51/scaled.php?server=51&filename=dsc0021ze.jpg&res=landing](http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg51/scaled.php?server=51&filename=dsc0021ze.jpg&res=landing)

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### Author: ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/17 "2012-05-11T05:59:45Z")

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mine is in the same spot right by the shock. i think legally it needs to be within 12" of the tail, but it looks way better tucked lol

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#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/18 "2012-05-11T06:28:54Z")

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lol here’s mine

 ![http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h135/jacobennis/62ef9ffb.jpg](http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h135/jacobennis/62ef9ffb.jpg)

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### Author: ![GenPatton](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/genpatton/32/6760_2.png) [@GenPatton](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GenPatton)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/19 "2012-05-11T06:36:06Z")

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> [@FS: 03 s2k Updated price again](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-03-s2k-updated-price-again/49495/33):
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> mine is in the same spot right by the shock. i think legally it needs to be within 12" of the tail, but it looks way better tucked lol

Agreed. I won’t be changing it unless I start getting hassled by the police for it.

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### Author: ![Upstate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b3f665/32.png) [@Upstate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Upstate)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wheres-your-plate/263716/20 "2012-05-11T07:39:49Z")

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> [@WTB 05/06 GTO](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-05-06-gto/49550/20):
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> To the OP, where have you been getting stopped? Same area? Just wondering as I have a good friend who has his plate mounted in the same spot and hasn’t been pulled over in the 3 years he has had it there.

I’ve had mine in the same spot for three years and it was never a problem until April. Wasn’t the same area either. One was north of Clifton Park on 87 and the other was on Central near Westgate.

It looks to me like everyone pretty much has there’s in the same spot, so unless I get hassled again I won’t be changing it.

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