# Which house belongs to the environmentalist?

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [April 30, 2008, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664 "2008-04-30T06:43:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/1 "2008-04-30T06:43:23Z")

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![http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd75/jsears77/house1.jpg](http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd75/jsears77/house1.jpg)  
**House #1:** This 20 room residence ( not including 8 bathrooms) is heated by natural gas. Its pool (and pool house) and a separate guest house, are all heated by gas. In one month it consumes more energy than the average American household does in a year. The average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2400 per month. In natural gas alone, this property consumes more than 20 times the national average for an American home. This house is not situated in a Northern or Midwestern “snow belt” area. It’s in the South.

![http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd75/jsears77/house2.jpg](http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd75/jsears77/house2.jpg)

**House #2:** Designed by an architecture professor at a leading university, this ranch-style house incorporates every “green” feature current home construction can provide. The house is 4,000 square feet ( 4 bedrooms) and sits on a high prairie in the American southwest. A central closet holds geothermal heat-pumps drawing ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground. The water (usually 67 degree F) heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer. The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas and it consumes one-quarter the electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling system.

Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000 gallon underground cistern. Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then into the cistern. The collected water then irrigates the land around the house Flowers and shrubs native to the area enable the property to blend into the surrounding rural landscape

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HOUSE #1, near Nashville Tennessee, is 
the abode of the "environmentalist" Al Gore. 

HOUSE #2, near Crawford Texas, is the home of 
the President of the United States, George W. Bush. 

An "inconvenient truth." I hope this gets passed to everyone! 
 
And yes, it's already been verfied:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp
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**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/2 "2008-04-30T06:45:45Z")

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i read this yesterday, and as much as I hate Gore, The Gore Mansion was built in the mid 20th century and has been extensively modified, and Gore buys carbon offsets as well as having solar energy collectors.

The Crawford Ranch is one of 5 homes GW has. Each of the others uses as much energy as the Gore homestead.

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/3 "2008-04-30T06:51:46Z")

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verfified, but madddd old.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/4 "2008-04-30T06:53:55Z")

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I just saw Mrs. Bush on TV talking about a new home they are building that is very friendly.  
Maybe it was an old show and this is the house.

I get a little scared when the President builds a self sustaining, off-grid house.  
Does he know something about the future that we don’t know?:tinfoilhat:

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**Author:** ![hondaride22](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hondaride22/32/5077_2.png) [@hondaride22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/hondaride22)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/5 "2008-04-30T06:58:30Z")

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this was a dumb ass republican post… if you did this out of love for george bush

kill urself it was a waste of time

/bitching

but u wasted 5 mins of work time.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/6 "2008-04-30T07:01:20Z")

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> [@hondaride22](#):
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> this was a dumb ass republican post… if you did this out of love for george bush
> 
> kill urself it was a waste of time
> 
> /bitching
> 
> but u wasted 5 mins of work time.

Your vagina really is sore today huh?

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/7 "2008-04-30T07:04:41Z")

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> [@Eazy716](#):
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> Gore buys carbon offsets

Don’t even get me started on that BS!

I guess I can drive drunk as long as I give money to MADD.:bloated:

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/8 "2008-04-30T07:12:19Z")

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> [@hondaride22](#):
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> this was a dumb ass republican post… if you did this out of love for george bush
> 
> kill urself it was a waste of time
> 
> /bitching
> 
> but u wasted 5 mins of work time.

u mad?

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**Author:** ![hondaride22](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hondaride22/32/5077_2.png) [@hondaride22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/hondaride22)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/9 "2008-04-30T07:16:09Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Your vagina really is sore today huh?

yea sorry ☹ im back to full time at work so im cranky ha

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/10 "2008-04-30T07:17:46Z")

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how ironic, a house built with lots and lots of big oil money to not use fossil fuels.

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/11 "2008-04-30T07:19:01Z")

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ironically GWB had no input into the house minus writing the check, it was the architects plan to have GWB build a green house, GWB just said ok because most of the materials used in the building of the house came from the local community.

[http://www.cowboysindians.com/articles/archives/1202/bush.html](http://www.cowboysindians.com/articles/archives/1202/bush.html)

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**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/12 "2008-04-30T07:23:34Z")

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Now as JayS knows I am a big Gore fan and well if I could hit Bush with a shovel repeatdly i would… this just makes me go wow…

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**Author:** ![hondaride22](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hondaride22/32/5077_2.png) [@hondaride22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/hondaride22)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/13 "2008-04-30T07:24:42Z")

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a shovel?

u have no imagination

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/14 "2008-04-30T07:29:17Z")

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how can you be a big gore fan and have never heard of his estate? This is at least 4 yrs old

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**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/15 "2008-04-30T07:33:35Z")

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I’m not going to comment on the political side, but I really do like Georgie’s house.

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**Author:** ![97\_B18b1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/cdc98d/32.png) [@97\_B18b1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97_B18b1)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/16 "2008-04-30T07:38:03Z")

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> [@Eazy716](#):
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> i read this yesterday, and as much as I hate Gore, The Gore Mansion was built in the mid 20th century and has been extensively modified, and Gore buys carbon offsets as well as having solar energy collectors.
> 
> The Crawford Ranch is one of 5 homes GW has. Each of the others uses as much energy as the Gore homestead.

/agree, he owns 5 homes and im pretty sure he built that one so he could bost about how environmentally friendly he is, when in realiaty, his other 4 homes use just as much energy as gores house most likely.

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**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/17 "2008-04-30T07:38:05Z")

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> [@hondaride22](#):
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> a shovel?
> 
> u have no imagination

No imagination required my friend. Just pure unbridled hatred and a shovel go a long long way, you would be suprised how effective it can be 🙂

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**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/18 "2008-04-30T07:39:18Z")

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> [@Nikuk](#):
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> how can you be a big gore fan and have never heard of his estate? This is at least 4 yrs old

_shrug_ just uninformed I suppose

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/19 "2008-04-30T07:40:04Z")

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> [@66impalass](#):
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> ironically GWB had no input into the house minus writing the check, it was the architects plan to have GWB build a green house, GWB just said ok because most of the materials used in the building of the house came from the local community.
> 
> [The Telegraph Blog - Cowboys and Indians Magazine](http://www.cowboysindians.com/articles/archives/1202/bush.html)

So now Bush a has to be an engineer too?

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-house-belongs-to-the-environmentalist/47664/20 "2008-04-30T07:48:19Z")

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> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> So now Bush a has to be an engineer too?

He didn’t even state or lead the design a bit, like a normal property owner would do, he just said “I want a house, with a nice size bedroom, a good shower and a porch with a lot of comfortable chairs.”

Usually people that want a green building states “I want to be a TEGBC house”

This is nothing more than buying a house off a shelf, and oh great it happens to be green as well.

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