# Who would you consider a Doctor? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 9, 2009, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911 "2009-11-09T12:12:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![eMKay](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/emkay/32/7428_2.png) [@eMKay](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eMKay)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/41 "2009-11-09T17:37:18Z")
My father in law hates it when I call him Doctor, I do it in public all the time. He’s a retired historian. ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/42 "2009-11-09T17:38:19Z")
> [@turbo ls1 ss](#): > > i think the original argument was a debate purely for the sake of arguing best. kind. ever. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/43 "2009-11-09T17:40:15Z")
![http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9695/321883219382f9c6918doup1.jpg](http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9695/321883219382f9c6918doup1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/44 "2009-11-09T18:10:46Z")
> [@Firehawk853](#): > > A PhD is a doctor, and can be called doctor if they wish. But is not the same as a ‘medical’ doctor. However should be treated with the same respect. having a phd or any other certificate does not command respect. I hate it when customers call me and emphasize their name as “dr” smith. I definitely say mr/ms smith. ---
**Author:** ![sickboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ea924/32.png) [@sickboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sickboy)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/45 "2009-11-10T05:04:20Z")
> [@travisn](#): > > having a phd or any other certificate does not command respect. > > I hate it when customers call me and emphasize their name as “dr” smith. I definitely say mr/ms smith. I don’t even want to begin to go in what’s wrong with this. You obviously have no idea what it takes to be a PhD. It’s not just a certificate. To do anything scientific-research related, you pretty much need a PhD. Basically all of our scientific knowledge has been discovered by PhD’s and yet they get this kind of attitude from most people. It usually takes 5-6 years of grueling graduate school (think classes, meetings, presentations, etc, plus working 40+ hours/week for near minimum wage for 5-6 years AFTER you’ve got your bachelors) to get the degree (compare that to other doctors), and then another 4-6 years of post-doctoral “training” working at crappy wages until you can get a real job (meaning decent pay). I know post-docs at UB that earn a lousy 35k/yr. That sucks pretty bad for someone with 10+ years of college trying to work on curing cancer. The least you can do is show them a little respect. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/46 "2009-11-10T05:29:54Z")
Word. Chances are people who say earning a PhD doesn’t make you a doctor probably didn’t graduate college. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/47 "2009-11-10T06:21:19Z")
People who suck at it are generally biased against education and those who pursued it. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/48 "2009-11-10T06:29:21Z")
Ugh… Chiropractors are not doctors. Theyre scam artists. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/49 "2009-11-10T06:39:07Z")
Stick with Homer’s Spine O Cylinder. ---
**Author:** ![Firehawk853](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/firehawk853/32/7607_2.png) [@Firehawk853](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Firehawk853)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/50 "2009-11-10T06:46:06Z")
> [@91MR2](#): > > I chose physician and dentist. Veterinarian I suppose too. Chiropractors and Phd’s however? No… I’m surprised that more people don’t consider a dentist a doctor. ---
**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/51 "2009-11-10T07:37:48Z")
I would say they all are. Vet is a maybe, but when you think they have to figure things out without the help of the animal, I would figure that is hard. ---
**Author:** ![longuyen88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/longuyen88/32/7611_2.png) [@longuyen88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/longuyen88)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/52 "2009-11-10T07:39:11Z")
Anyone with a doctorate is a doctor. Whether they prefer to be called a doctor or not is personal preference. ---
**Author:** ![Maksim2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dec6dc/32.png) [@Maksim2000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Maksim2000)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/53 "2009-11-10T07:42:16Z")
All of those(and more) are doctors, I wouldn’t prefix their names with "Dr."though in formal writing though, unless they are medicine related - JDs ScDs and PhDs get a postfix or a title (Dean, Professor, Judge) instead. ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/54 "2009-11-10T07:54:28Z")
> [@sickboy](#): > > I don’t even want to begin to go in what’s wrong with this. You obviously have no idea what it takes to be a PhD. It’s not just a certificate. To do anything scientific-research related, you pretty much need a PhD. Basically all of our scientific knowledge has been discovered by PhD’s and yet they get this kind of attitude from most people. It usually takes 5-6 years of grueling graduate school (think classes, meetings, presentations, etc, plus working 40+ hours/week for near minimum wage for 5-6 years AFTER you’ve got your bachelors) to get the degree (compare that to other doctors), and then another 4-6 years of post-doctoral “training” working at crappy wages until you can get a real job (meaning decent pay). I know post-docs at UB that earn a lousy 35k/yr. That sucks pretty bad for someone with 10+ years of college trying to work on curing cancer. The least you can do is show them a little respect. One more good thing about engineering Ph D’s is that they can get most of their education paid for while working for 20-30k/year with benefits. Thats a pretty good deal if you have the talent and desire for it. Praxair loves to hire guys fresh out of college. Its an interesting environment. A lot of really smart people that can be pretty dumb with things outside their range of study. We also have a lot of imports from India, Europe and the UK. There are very few locals here and big name schools go a long way in getting interviews. You can’t get anywhere in R&D here w/o one. Guys with MS degrees get shit on. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/55 "2009-11-10T08:07:40Z")
[quote=“drvnkd,post:54,topic:75911"”] One more good thing about engineering Ph D’s is that they can get most of their education paid for while working for 20-30k/year with benefits. Thats a pretty good deal if you have the talent and desire for it. Praxair loves to hire guys fresh out of college. Its an interesting environment. A lot of really smart people that can be pretty dumb with things outside their range of study. We also have a lot of imports from India, Europe and the UK. There are very few locals here and big name schools go a long way in getting interviews. You can’t get anywhere in R&D here w/o one. Guys with MS degrees get shit on. [/quote] They still all have bosses at some level with MBA’s though :P. Dr. Subordinate, I presume? ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/56 "2009-11-10T08:25:55Z")
That sounds about right. Could explain most of the decision making processes 😃 ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/57 "2009-11-10T08:51:01Z")
Dr of shoe making? ![http://www.zoukclub.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/773-dr-martens-1460-patent-black-m.jpg](http://www.zoukclub.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/773-dr-martens-1460-patent-black-m.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/58 "2009-11-10T09:41:25Z")
> [@sickboy](#): > > … So because they “xxx” means that they get preferential treatment? c’mon. It’s people who think they are better than everyone because they have a 3 mil house and a doctorate that I am referring to. It doesnt give anyone the right to be a self righteous prick. ---
**Author:** ![Maksim2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dec6dc/32.png) [@Maksim2000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Maksim2000)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/59 "2009-11-10T09:43:49Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > Dr of shoe making? I think was a physician in German army… ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911/60 "2009-11-10T10:13:40Z")
> [@travisn](#): > > So because they “xxx” means that they get preferential treatment? c’mon. It’s people who think they are better than everyone because they have a 3 mil house and a doctorate that I am referring to. It doesnt give anyone the right to be a self righteous prick. I’d feel inferior to just about everybody if I drove a canary yellow Grand Am AND I’m a PhD candidate in Chemical Engineering. Some things just can’t be overcome with a fancy title… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-would-you-consider-a-doctor/75911.md?page=4)