# WHO's TAX CUTS WILL GIVE YOU MORE MONIES? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 18, 2008, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655 "2008-10-18T06:21:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![zwarbyt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zwarbyt/32/7623_2.png) [@zwarbyt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zwarbyt)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/1 "2008-10-18T06:21:43Z")
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**Author:** ![zwarbyt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zwarbyt/32/7623_2.png) [@zwarbyt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zwarbyt)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/2 "2008-10-18T06:22:42Z")
Saving me over 1200 :wiggle: ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/3 "2008-10-18T07:31:27Z")
Brilliant comrade! That ALWAYS works. They aren’t tax cuts for the bottom 3 they are grants. You have to actually pay taxes to get a cut in taxes. Even Joe Biden says it sounds like socialism. Why would he give people making $111,000 more people making $66,355? $66000-$111000 is the middle class. +11.5% on $701,000?!? Hollywood called, they want their money back. lol ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/4 "2008-10-18T07:35:07Z")
Well considering I only work full time during the summer, you can guess who helps me more. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/5 "2008-10-18T07:47:59Z")
Do you think it is fair that the top 1% pay 40% of the taxes? They should get 40 votes! Top 1% $388,806 39.89 Top 5% $153,542 60.14 Top 10% $108,904 70.79 Top 25% $64,702 86.27 Top 50% $31,987 97.01 Bottom 50% \<$31,987 2.99 The bottom 50% don’t even pay 3%! Think about that. They are voting on the money spent, makes sense.:roll2: ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/6 "2008-10-18T07:49:18Z")
.4% change in Obama’s plan according to that chart does not justify enough of a vote for Obama from me ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/7 "2008-10-18T08:03:52Z")
BED has a point. There. I said it. :tinfoilhat: ---
**Author:** ![rdandy5875](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rdandy5875/32/7511_2.png) [@rdandy5875](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rdandy5875)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/8 "2008-10-18T08:46:50Z")
FUCK I accidentally voted mccain. I meant to vote obama oh well as long as I make that mistake now and not when I vote for realz… ---
**Author:** ![A.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@A.J](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/A.J)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/9 "2008-10-18T09:31:38Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > Do you think it is fair that the top 1% pay 40% of the taxes? > They should get 40 votes! > > Top 1% > $388,806 > 39.89 > > Top 5% > $153,542 > 60.14 > > Top 10% > $108,904 > 70.79 > > Top 25% > $64,702 > 86.27 > > Top 50% > $31,987 > 97.01 > > Bottom 50% > \<$31,987 > 2.99 > > The bottom 50% don’t even pay 3%! Think about that. > They are voting on the money spent, makes sense.:roll2: I think it is fair, I just look at the charts and can see who wants to help who and that’s how I made my decision. The top 1% or whatever it is should be paying those taxes to help out the hard working middle class. 40% of what was it on the chart (I do not feel like going back to it ) $2.87 Million leaves them much better off then I or any of us has ever been sitting. It leaves them with $1.73 million, my heart goes out them and their tuff struggles ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/10 "2008-10-18T09:40:48Z")
Just keep in mind that the people who are getting the cut(grant really) are the people who shop at WalMart. The people he wants to take more money from are the people that buy American goods and services. I guess they will spend less so the other people can give more money to WalMart. If you get laid off because of this, you can apply at Walmart I guess. ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/11 "2008-10-18T09:41:50Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > all that shit by you Look at the math and figures, the top 1% of the country also controls more than 30% ( I forgot the exact number off the top of my head) of the nations wealth… EDIT: and fuck, I just noticed the I fall in a different bracket on the scale… sadly McCain would get me an extra $400 a year ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/12 "2008-10-18T09:42:40Z")
^One more reason not to take their money. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/13 "2008-10-18T09:45:54Z")
WHOSE TAX CUTS WILL GIVE THE GOVERNMENT MORE OF A STRANGLE HOLD OF THE ECONOMY’S MONIES? Fixed. ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/14 "2008-10-18T09:51:59Z")
The only number I could find its the top 1% of the country, as of 2001, controls 39.7% of the country’s wealth… Should they not be responsible for 40% of the countries tax burden if they had 40% of the country’s money? source (no fact checking): [http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html](http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html) ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/15 "2008-10-18T10:31:24Z")
> [@66impalass](#): > > Should they not be responsible for 40% Should they be responsible to pay for the other 99%'s use of the systems which tax dollars fund? Should they be punished for being more successful then the other 99%? You don’t pay taxes until your at least 18 (generally speaking), so if you fuck up (read: are not successful enough to be top 1%) from that point on, you should have your way paid for? ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/16 "2008-10-18T10:36:51Z")
whose. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/17 "2008-10-18T10:37:21Z")
zwarbut. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/18 "2008-10-18T10:40:21Z")
I’m pretty sure this chart was already posted. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/19 "2008-10-18T10:50:13Z")
Under Obama I’ll do .4% better. By the end of his term after he’s delivered us right into the next depression and I drop down a few brackets when either my wife or myself are out of a job looks like Obama will be even better for me! Go free money! ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655/20 "2008-10-18T10:56:47Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > Should they be responsible to pay for the other 99%'s use of the systems which tax dollars fund? > > Should they be punished for being more successful then the other 99%? > > You don’t pay taxes until your at least 18 (generally speaking), so if you fuck up (read: are not successful enough to be top 1%) from that point on, you should have your way paid for? Whose way has been paid for, I am no wear near the top 1%, I get shit from the government… PS most people pay taxes from some job from the age of 16 and up. How is a 1 to 1 ratio of responsibility being punished? The bottom 80% is responsible for 9% of this countries wealth, but there tax burden is 31%… is that fair? and I just found new numbers, the top 1% of the country is responsible for 28% of the tax burden as of 2005 [http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/23319.html](http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/23319.html) > [@JayS](#): > > Under Obama I’ll do .4% better. By the end of his term after he’s delivered us right into the next depression and I drop down a few brackets when either my wife or myself are out of a job looks like Obama will be even better for me! > > Go free money! and I guarantee he will not put this country into a worse financial situation than what we are already in… If that is truly the case, you should have gotten a better degree, engineers are in such high demand right now you get a 20% wage increase by changing jobs once a year, even though job jumping looks like shit. Hell, we had one guy that just left for a 50% wage increase with just 3 years experience at one company. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-tax-cuts-will-give-you-more-monies/56655.md?page=2)