# Why did Ford Lose 12 BILLION dollars **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 27, 2007, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693 "2007-01-27T20:47:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/1 "2007-01-27T20:47:55Z")
150k, car… taped together washers to shim body panels, and nice welds ![http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2414/bobosgt006qz7.jpg](http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2414/bobosgt006qz7.jpg) ![http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/9131/bobosgt004md4.jpg](http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/9131/bobosgt004md4.jpg) ![http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6054/bobosgt002iz0.jpg](http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6054/bobosgt002iz0.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Locutus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/locutus/32/7574_2.png) [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/2 "2007-01-27T21:29:06Z")
lol wow… ---
**Author:** ![FiftyCheven](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fiftycheven/32/4950_2.png) [@FiftyCheven](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FiftyCheven)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/3 "2007-01-27T21:39:59Z")
doesn’t surprise me. Ive seen cases where people bought brand new mustangs…had problems and end up finding cigarette butts and garbage inside the cylinder heads. ---
**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/4 "2007-01-27T21:55:16Z")
sweeeeeeeet :tdown: ---
**Author:** ![venomgsr95](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/venomgsr95/32/7516_2.png) [@venomgsr95](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/venomgsr95)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/5 "2007-01-27T21:59:29Z")
what car is that? ---
**Author:** ![sickmach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@sickmach](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sickmach)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/6 "2007-01-27T22:03:58Z")
looks like ford gt ---
**Author:** ![misteroman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/misteroman/32/7423_2.png) [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/7 "2007-01-27T22:14:31Z")
> [@sickmach](#): > > looks like ford gt LOL, what other car dos Ford have that sells for $150? D ---
**Author:** ![sickmach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@sickmach](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sickmach)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/8 "2007-01-27T22:21:42Z")
lol i was just answering the question above me ---
**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/9 "2007-01-27T23:33:49Z")
yeah… while the GT’s seemed pretty nice, and limited production, i was always baffled as to what exactly made them a 150K car. when you can get a viper for 1/2 as much. i’m just saying. ---
**Author:** ![rj-92](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rj-92/32/7310_2.png) [@rj-92](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rj-92)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2007, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/10 "2007-01-28T10:01:08Z")
i’m willing to be those welds are done by robots with full automation. No one can weld that bad… no one. ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2007, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/11 "2007-01-28T10:02:42Z")
> [@rj-92](#): > > i’m willing to be those welds are done by robots with full automation. No one can weld that bad… no one. i can…lol ---
**Author:** ![Fetter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fetter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fetter)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2007, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/12 "2007-01-28T10:04:31Z")
> [@ly555is](#): > > yeah… while the GT’s seemed pretty nice, and limited production, i was always baffled as to what exactly made them a 150K car. when you can get a viper for 1/2 as much. > > i’m just saying. Why get a viper when you can get a Z06 for less? Or spend the money and get the Corvette SS that is coming out. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2007, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/13 "2007-01-28T10:08:27Z")
This is exactly why I laugh when I here the GT compared to a Ferrari or Porsche. Some people just don’t understand the pride and craftmenship of Porsche and Ferrari. ---
**Author:** ![Fetter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fetter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fetter)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2007, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/14 "2007-01-28T10:12:42Z")
:word: ---
**Author:** ![rj-92](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rj-92/32/7310_2.png) [@rj-92](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rj-92)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2007, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/15 "2007-01-28T10:12:48Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > This is exactly why I laugh when I here the GT compared to a Ferrari or Porsche. > Some people just don’t understand the pride and craftmenship of Porsche and Ferrari. I guess you have never seen the build quality of a early 90’s Ferrari. Many would make the GT’s build quality look top notch. :lol: ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2007, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/16 "2007-01-28T10:16:39Z")
Where is this car? Doesn’t exactly look like a ford plant. ---
**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2007, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/17 "2007-01-28T10:18:38Z")
> [@rj-92](#): > > I guess you have never seen the build quality of a early 90’s Ferrari. Many would make the GT’s build quality look top notch. :lol: ever see the interior of an 80s testarossa? absolute shit quality. i was appalled, and i didn’t really think that i was the type of person that cared about interior quality all that much. ---
**Author:** ![rob\_woods](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ccd318/32.png) [@rob\_woods](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rob_woods)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2007, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/18 "2007-01-28T11:16:04Z")
Discovery channel had a 1 hour special on the new ferrari being made. Their build quality and manufacturing process was simple amazing. It was called Ultimate Factories. ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2007, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/19 "2007-01-28T11:21:06Z")
I remeber taking the dash off a Grand Am to install an auto-starter and found a razor blade that had been spot welded between two panels. Couldn’t find the line of coke though. Also… you can’t compare the build quality of the 80’s even the early 90’s to now…a lot of things have changed, including the supplier quality standards, automation, and the developed processes. If you want to compare an 80’s Ferrari Build quality…to compare it to a 2005 Ford vehicle, compare it to an 80’s Ford 2005 Ford Quality \> 80’s Ferrari Quality 80’s Ferrari Quality \>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\> 80’s Ford Quality ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2007, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693/20 "2007-01-28T11:39:32Z")
> [@rj-92](#): > > I guess you have never seen the build quality of a early 90’s Ferrari. Many would make the GT’s build quality look top notch. :lol: I actually thought about only mentioning Porsche.:biglaugh: [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-did-ford-lose-12-billion-dollars/23693.md?page=2)