# Why do you like Obama? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 14, 2008, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401 "2008-10-14T07:30:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/41 "2008-10-14T08:37:01Z")
-The fact that he gives a shit about people my age. McCain’s entire platform is pandering to the elderly, like himself, mostly because they have like 99.999% voter turnout. Obama’s strongest support group that Gore or Kerry didn’t have is people in their 20’s. -His economic policies. Trickle downeconomics is a proven failure. Bottom up is what works. His tax policy is based on those ideals. Not to mention, it actually pays for itself by charging more to the rich. McCain’s would amount to an even bigger deficit. -Greater regulation in the financial industry. We need it. -Health care. All McCain’s health care plan would do for most of us is make us pay taxes on the coverage we get from our employers. Or make it so expensive that we lose it. Obama’s plan isn’t perfect, but it’s better. -Iraq. It’s expensive, deadly, and we get no benefit out of it other than continuing to let the iraqi government build their surplus. He was against it from the beginning, as was I. GTFO. -His overall decision making and intelligence. This society is so fucking stupid that they make it like being smart is a bad thing, that it makes you “elitist” and “professorly.” Bullshit. I want a smart President for a change. That thinks before he acts and is intelligent. FWIW most employers overvalue experience and undervalue education. Being smart means you can pick up things on the fly and improve on them, instead of doing it the same way for years and years until you memorize it. -Actually trying to work with the rest of the world, particularly our allies. The Bush doctrine of fuck everyone, we do what we want because we’re the strongest is horrible for us worldwide. McCain has promised more of the same. I’d like to restore some of that credibility since the foreigners are basically financing us now. ---
**Author:** ![EvilJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a5b964/32.png) [@EvilJay](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EvilJay)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/42 "2008-10-14T08:40:18Z")
McCain pretty much forced me to like Obama. Everytime I see that guy/palin I feel sorry for them. Nobody is getting a pity vote from me…He’s just a bumbling old man…who probably won’t ever get it right. She’s an airhead. At least Obama is composed and collected. I used to think it wasn’t about personality, it was only about the issues at hand. But I don’t believe that anymore. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/43 "2008-10-14T08:49:50Z")
> [@EvilJay](#): > > McCain pretty much forced me to like Obama. Everytime I see that guy/palin I feel sorry for them. Nobody is getting a pity vote from me…He’s just a bumbling old man…who probably won’t ever get it right. She’s an airhead. At least Obama is composed and collected. > > I used to think it wasn’t about personality, it was only about the issues at hand. > > But I don’t believe that anymore. Ya I agree. How many people that are voting for Obama are registered Republican? I know I am registered as a republican and voting democrat this year. ---
**Author:** ![Jared](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jared/32/4976_2.png) [@Jared](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jared)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/44 "2008-10-14T08:53:38Z")
Obama is out to help the middle class and people who are in school , he also wants to stop the war and track down Bin Laden … + palin = airhead I vote Joe Mesi for State Senate ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/45 "2008-10-14T08:54:22Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > Ya I agree. How many people that are voting for Obama are registered Republican? I know I am registered as a republican and voting democrat this year. I was actually considering it for a while too, but after doing some research about his “big plans” I quickly changed my mind. I’d rather not vote at all, than give it to him ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/46 "2008-10-14T09:06:03Z")
> [@Dr.Stevil](#): > > I was actually considering it for a while too, but after doing some research about his “big plans” I quickly changed my mind. I’d rather not vote at all, than give it to him You gotta vote so you can at least bitch when the elected president fucks up the country even worse and tell everyone that they should have taken your advice and voted for the other guy like you 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/47 "2008-10-14T09:08:54Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > I find it odd that you care so much about this discussion, yet you do not care enough to vote. If you have such strong thoughts and opinions, why not come to a decision and do something to help this country? > > People who really care and know the issues need to vote, because otherwise, ignorant people will end up voting in the wrong president. Seriously man, you owe it to your country to vote. When the election is over, and you come back here bitching about how shitty this gov’t is, I will remind you that you didn’t do shit about it. That goes for anyone who does not vote. My reasoning for this thread has nothing to do with how our government is run. I have my reasons for asking questions that I want to know the answers to and usually the reasons are much deeper than the surface. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/48 "2008-10-14T09:13:26Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > You gotta vote so you can at least bitch when the elected president fucks up the country even worse and tell everyone that they should have taken your advice and voted for the other guy like you 🙂 lol to quote the great george carlin > "You may have noticed that there’s one thing I don’t complain about: Politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says, “They suck”. But where do people think these politicians come from? They don’t fall out of the sky. They don’t pass through a membrane from another reality. No, they come from American homes, American families, American schools, American churches, American businesses, and they’re elected by American voters. _This is the best we can do, folks_. It’s what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. > …I have solved this political dilemma in a very direct way: I don’t vote. On Election Day, I stay home. I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. Now, some people like to twist that around. They say, “If you don’t vote, you have no right to complain”, but where’s the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they get into office and screw everything up, _you_ are responsible for what they have done. _You_ voted them in. _You_ caused the problem. _You_ have no right to complain. > I, on the other hand, who did not vote – who did not even leave the house on Election Day – am in no way responsible for that these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess that you created." ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/49 "2008-10-14T10:03:04Z")
> [@Jared](#): > > Obama is out to help the middle class and people who are in school , he also wants to stop the war and track down Bin Laden > … + palin = airhead > > I vote Joe Mesi for State Senate :tup: :tup: ---
**Author:** ![A.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@A.J](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/A.J)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/50 "2008-10-14T10:11:37Z")
Here is my reasoning: -Taxes: Help out the middle class and take away tax breaks from the absurdly rich. These tax cuts and rebates to the middle class will help out so many of us especially if we get the energy rebate(it is almost winter time so it will be more felt then when people go damn that rebate is going to be nice) from the windfall taxes he is proposing. - > Provide $50 billion to Jumpstart the Economy and Prevent 1 Million Americans from Losing Their Jobs: This relief would include a $25 billion State Growth Fund to prevent state and local cuts in health, education, housing, and heating assistance or counterproductive increases in property taxes, tolls or fees. The Obama-Biden relief plan will also include $25 billion in a Jobs and Growth Fund to prevent cutbacks in road and bridge maintenance and fund school re\*pair - all to save more than 1 million jobs in danger of being cut. Just look at what our Gov is saying about how fucked we are in NYS and we are one of the highest taxed states in the U.S. are we not? This money if done correctly will help state governments. -He wants to reward companies that keep jobs in America -He wants to invest in Green Jobs and Energy and this is huge in my book. People need to be retrained and I am sick of hearing they cannot when learn a new skill when they are 40 years old or be expected to when their factory job leaves. If the funding is put in place and we can start programs to retrain people to work these green jobs I think people will finally see that a old dog can learn new tricks if they aren’t a lazy bitch -Palin is not his VP -Finally someone who wants to invest in scientific research that could lead to American born innovations - Understands that young people like me are swimming in debt from college tuition and are being taken advantage of by private banking institutions. he understands how key education is in the resurrection process of America as a leader and beacon in this world. I just don’t feel that McCain understands that without the best education system THAT IS FAIR AND EQUAL then we will never be able to truly fight poverty in this nation. Just to be fair education is not just going to college and getting a degree, education and knowledge can come from many sources (job training, internships, apprentice etc etc). These are just some of the reason I am 100% behind Obama. I just hope he fights the stereotypes and atleast tries to do what he wants to even if that means getting shot down on every idea except 1 in four years. That’s a step in the right direction after this last idiot for the past 8 years ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/51 "2008-10-14T10:14:47Z")
> [@Afrank45](#): > > ill be the first to say it…cuz hes black > > i joke but seriously Its not so much how much i like obama its how much i dislike the McCain/Palin idea. > > First off Palin is a moron and the idea of her being in charge is terrifying. But my main concern is McCain winning and prolonging this war that id like to be over sooner rather than later. That being said im 21 i dont want to be forced into possibly serving(via the draft) because McCain feels he needs to send more troops over seas. So not voting for him seems to be the lesser of two evils even though i dont agree with ALL of Obamas policies lawlz. Do you actually think that our generation could handle a draft? We are probably the weakest group this country has ever produced. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/52 "2008-10-14T10:29:12Z")
> [@A.J.](#): > > Just look at what our Gov is saying about how fucked we are in NYS and we are one of the highest taxed states in the U.S. are we not? This money if done correctly will help state governments. > > -He wants to reward companies that keep jobs in America by taxing them? ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/53 "2008-10-14T10:40:52Z")
- Because he has a plan to get us out of Iraq and McCain doesn’t. - Because he will lower taxes on the middle class. - Because he believes in a nation with the best doctors and hospitals that health care should be a right. - Because John McCain is not a Maverick but just a different version of George Bush. - Because Obama will make Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden the priority of the war on terrorism not Iraq which never was. - Because Obama supports green alternatives to energy. - Because a Democratic Congress and Presidency can undue the catastrifuck that was the last eight years. - Because Obama will repair the damaged image of the US in the eyes of the rest of the world. - Because Obama is not a career Washington Politician unlike McCain or Biden for that matter. - Because McCain chose a VP for a photo opt and not for leadership. - Because Obama will not take my guns. - Because Obama is Pro-Choice - Because Obama will keep the supreme court from becoming a tool of the right wing by nominating better justices. - Because Obama will keep us on the path of a regulated economy. - Because Obama sees the failures of NCLB and will work to fix them. - Because Obama is not a tool of the religious right. ---
**Author:** ![cteclipse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@cteclipse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cteclipse)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/54 "2008-10-14T11:32:07Z")
Couldn’t agree with strokedz28 more, very well said. I believe that more spending is not a bad thing, as long as those funds come from relocated money from inefficient programs already in place that will be cut, reguardless of the party that put them in place, or from the ungodly wealthy who may not have been taxed equally. I went to an Obama Rally with 20k+ turnout, and it WAS AMERICA. You looked around and saw poor, rich, all races, white businessmen, EVERYTHING. It was a great cross section of America, and I believe Obama has a more realistic grip on the average American. I love that he at least HAS a plan for the tax structure (the 250k policy), whether it works or not, I don’t know, but is one of the few politicians that says, Heres what I’m going to do, and how I’m going to do it. He has a grip on foreign policy, IMO, I do not support Iraq, but I believe that it is necessary to have some type of force in Afghanistan where there might really be people that want to harm the US. This seems to be along the lines of his beliefs. Also, diplomacy, its common sense. Just my input. ---
**Author:** ![d3x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@d3x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d3x)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/55 "2008-10-14T11:38:09Z")
Obama is a Giant Douche and McCain is a Turd Sandwich. And a Giant Douche would make a better president than a Turd Sandwich. Nobody wants a shitty president. ---
**Author:** ![longuyen88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/longuyen88/32/7611_2.png) [@longuyen88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/longuyen88)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/56 "2008-10-14T11:49:32Z")
Obama because even if he fucks up, its not as bad as Bush. ---
**Author:** ![BluBalls](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bluballs/32/7212_2.png) [@BluBalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BluBalls)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/57 "2008-10-14T14:10:53Z")
pro-choice is better than stairs. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/58 "2008-10-14T14:20:17Z")
I’m voting for him because MTV told me to. ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401/59 "2008-10-14T14:58:50Z")
The lesser of two evils. That, and as a middle classer myself - he’s got some good ideas. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-you-like-obama/56401.md?page=2)