# Why my competition is a rip off. ($189 windowz!)

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**Created:** [March 27, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-my-competition-is-a-rip-off-189-windowz/229585 "2013-03-27T21:46:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![sobo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sobo/32/5267_2.png) [@sobo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sobo)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-my-competition-is-a-rip-off-189-windowz/229585/21 "2013-03-28T15:59:37Z")

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> [@slo ride](#):
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> i don’t know how the window world in buffalo operates but i will just say that i have used the one here near me a few times now on rental properties. i have probably had about 100 windows installed by them and have not had a major complaint to speak of and i have never paid more than $189 a window. perhaps it is because i’m buying several windows at a time or they now know i will buy more but they have never dinged me with any of the add-ons.
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> other than a few occasions where i have needed strengthened glass due to the height of the window i have never paid over the $189.
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> are they the best windows in the world…of course not…but they do replace sashes for free and quickly no questions asked…which for rental properties is a nice benefit. i have had people move in and break a window on day one by letting a bed frame slide into the window, attempted break ins, stray baseball, bee-bee gun pellet, window AC units, etc and they have yet to ask me why they are replacing anything that I have asked for. call them up, give them the serial number and i have a new sash in 10 days.
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> EDIT: my mistake. i have actually been getting the doublehung 4000 series which is called “4000 Premium DH DSG” down here for $189. i had forgot that when i first used them they were running a sale and they guaranteed me the price for 5 years because i told them i had other properties and i was buying a dozen windows to start. according to the literature the 4000 series is both a welded sash and frame.

For rentals the 189 a window is probably fine. But 90% of people buy windows to better their efficiency of their home. Without argon or Low-e coating, one might as well leave the originals in if they aren’t broken IMO. Also, trim makes a big difference in maintenance and curb appeal for most homes.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-my-competition-is-a-rip-off-189-windowz/229585/22 "2013-03-28T17:35:23Z")

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I got 3 quotes for similar quality windows (whole home replacement) and Alex was able to do two custom doors for me for the same price that the others wanted for just the windows :tup:

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**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-my-competition-is-a-rip-off-189-windowz/229585/23 "2013-03-28T20:09:34Z")

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> [@Jeller](#):
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> These are typically a triple glass window with a decent U-Value. Your previous owner must have been a haggler if they are the triple, most of the triple glass braymiller quotes I see are about 1000-1200 per window. Unless you have a dual glass model, not sure what they offer exactly or how old they are.

Not sure if they are triple glass or not, perhaps he haggled but the invoice has “special pricing” labeled on it. They where done in early 2008.

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**Author:** ![TurboTSi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@TurboTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTSi)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-my-competition-is-a-rip-off-189-windowz/229585/24 "2013-03-28T20:16:11Z")

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I got suckered in on the Breymiller sales call. I signed up to win a “house full of windows,” at BJ’s, and I won 3rd place which gave me a nice 25% off. I told them no thanks, since I know Jeller and buy my good windows through him, but they insisted they could give me a good price and I did, after all, win 3rd place. I knew it was BS, but I told the guy to come by on my lunch break. Those idiots wanted to charge me $1,800 for 1 double casement window, or approximately $25,000 for my whole house. I told him to GTFO.

I have bought all of my cheap windows for my rentals through Window Depot/Americas Windows, and have always paid $259 per window. Always there on time, quality work and that included the removal, install, insulation, and aluminum trim. No complaints from those guys. Although, I wouldn’t use them for my house.

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