# Why pass our overdue budget when we can just jack up the taxes on tobacco?

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**Created:** [June 21, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839 "2010-06-21T20:07:32Z")
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### Author: ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/1 "2010-06-21T20:07:32Z")

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Source: [http://www.wten.com/global/story.asp?s=12685065](http://www.wten.com/global/story.asp?s=12685065)

> By JOHN McLOUGHLIN, NEWS10 Staff  
> ALBANY, N.Y. – After a warning from the comptroller that state worker paychecks could hang in the balance, both houses of the Legislature approved another emergency spending bill plus a bill that raises taxes on tobacco products by an estimated $440 million.  
> With lawmakers continuing to meet and hash over the twelfth budget extender bill in lieu of a budget that’s now nearly three months overdue, State Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli warned that, unless the extender was approved by 6 p.m., at the latest, there would not be enough time to authorize and deposit the payroll in time for Wednesday’s payday.  
> With only 20 minutes to go before that deadline, the Senate and the Assembly passed the budget legislation. The Senate approved the bill in a party line vote of 33-28, with Democrats in the majority.  
> Sen. Roy McDonald, Republican of Saratoga County, broke ranks and voted in favor of the budget extender, the lone Republican to do so.  
> Grouped with the extender was another bill that includes huge increases in tobacco tariffs. The tax on a pack of cigarettes will now be increased by $1.60 a pack to $4.35, the highest in the nation.  
> The bill also calls for a higher tax on non-cigarette tobacco, including snuff, cigars, and so-called “little cigars”. Tobacconists say the tax on cigars will double their prices.  
> Controversy erupted in the Senate chamber over another part of the bill that implemented a tax collection on cigarettes sold on Native American reservations.  
> Several Senators expressed frustration over this part of the bill, saying they disagreed with the inclusion of collecting cigarette taxes from Native American reservations, but had no choice to vote for it in order to keep New York State running.  
> One Senator, George Maziarz (R), even warned of a violent “clash of cultures” between Native Americans and the State of New York if the taxes are put into practice.  
> The tobacco tariffs passed 32-29. McDonald did not join the Democrats this time.  
> The new tax on cigarettes goes into effect on July 1. The taxes on non-cigarette tobacco begin August 1, and New York State will begin collecting taxes on cigarettes sold on reservations September 1.  
> So when do we get a real budget? Lawmakers are vowing to do that by the weekend and before Governor David Paterson’s deadline of June 28.

Unreal.

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### Author: ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/2 "2010-06-21T20:07:55Z")

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UnFUCKINGreal

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### Author: ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/3 "2010-06-21T20:10:47Z")

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while im glad i don’t smoke, thats fucked up !

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### Author: ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/4 "2010-06-21T20:11:01Z")

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I dont smoke cigarettes but those taxes are ridiculous.

I also think Indians should have to pay taxes. Tax them fuckers just like the rest of us.

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### Author: ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/5 "2010-06-21T20:11:37Z")

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> [@Opie and Anthony](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opie-and-anthony/25815/163):
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> I dont smoke cigarettes but those taxes are ridiculous.
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> I also think Indians should have to pay taxes. Tax them fuckers just like the rest of us.

kinda agree with ya

i said KINDA

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### Author: ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/6 "2010-06-21T20:11:46Z")

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Haha You hear PJB Singh. He talkin crazy

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### Author: ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/7 "2010-06-21T20:13:07Z")

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The indians were here first, PJB. They ought to be taxing YOU.

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### Author: ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/8 "2010-06-21T20:14:18Z")

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But they dont have the balls so tax them.

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### Author: ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/9 "2010-06-21T20:17:48Z")

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They will get angry, shoot lots of Arrows in your direction until your F150’s tires pop, and then give up.

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### Author: ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/10 "2010-06-21T20:17:58Z")

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haha wow

hatin on the indians huh white boy?

:lol

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### Author: ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/11 "2010-06-21T20:19:02Z")

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not the dot kind Dave so youre ok.

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### Author: ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/12 "2010-06-21T20:19:27Z")

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> [@AlpineSkiier"](#):
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> They will get angry, shoot lots of Arrows in your direction until your F150’s tires pop, and then give up.

white man have gun, red man no gun

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### Author: ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/13 "2010-06-21T20:21:50Z")

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### Author: ![Dread](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dread/32/6544_2.png) [@Dread](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dread)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/14 "2010-06-21T20:23:49Z")

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This will be the end of local cigar shops, our state is so fucking retarded. Cant pass a budget? Assfuck small businesses for the money.

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### Author: ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/15 "2010-06-21T20:23:53Z")

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Lmao

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### Author: ![slwrthnu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slwrthnu/32/6296_2.png) [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/16 "2010-06-21T20:32:10Z")

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if we worked on the budget as much as we work on the budget extenders we would have a fucking budget by now.

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### Author: ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/17 "2010-06-21T20:40:03Z")

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> [@Loose change 9/11](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/loose-change-9-11/32860/30):
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> not the dot kind Dave so youre ok.

haha that makes it all better !

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### Author: ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/18 "2010-06-21T21:06:08Z")

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Glad i’m not working for the state. This shit is getting CRAZY. But it is expected when you have Dems running shit.

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### Author: ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/19 "2010-06-22T03:39:52Z")

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> [@psychopjv\>Some tool in a Z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/psychopjv-some-tool-in-a-z28/32876/11):
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> Glad i’m not working for the state. This shit is getting CRAZY. But it is expected when you have **Politicians** running shit.

Fixed.

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#### Post date: [June 22, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-pass-our-overdue-budget-when-we-can-just-jack-up-the-taxes-on-tobacco/252839/20 "2010-06-22T04:14:14Z")

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i stand beside my statement that the only way out of this chickenshit bullshit is to become so rich you can afford not to care

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