# why trouble shoot when you can just buy a better motor for the price of 5 labor hours **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [May 17, 2007, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462 "2007-05-17T12:25:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/1 "2007-05-17T12:25:37Z")
2 liter makes noise; fuck figuring out what it is… just buy a 2.3 liter ![http://www.zer0daze.com/saab/PIC-0007.jpg](http://www.zer0daze.com/saab/PIC-0007.jpg) ![http://www.zer0daze.com/saab/PIC-0008.jpg](http://www.zer0daze.com/saab/PIC-0008.jpg) oh, and put a bigger turbo on it too 😉 edit: the 2.3l doesnt make more power because of the larger turbo, increased boost and displacement… its because of the sweet red block ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/2 "2007-05-17T12:26:33Z")
Why? Do you want to burn out that one front tire even faster than before? ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/3 "2007-05-17T12:27:33Z")
[quote=“Daddie,post:2,topic:29462"”] Why? Do you want to burn out that one front tire even faster than before? [/quote] yes i save money by only killing 1 tire at a time ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/4 "2007-05-17T12:28:27Z")
I like your logic. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/5 "2007-05-17T12:28:56Z")
with how cheap saab engines are, i may not even change the oil any more. just swap engines every year ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/6 "2007-05-17T12:34:39Z")
yeah, do you have a reliable car that you daily drive? ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/7 "2007-05-17T12:39:41Z")
[quote=“93dx–hatch,post:6,topic:29462"”] yeah, do you have a reliable car that you daily drive? [/quote] i have our truck i should have never sold the honda ☹ oh, and i hate you for pointing that out ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/8 "2007-05-17T12:45:45Z")
[quote=“Zer0DazE,post:7,topic:29462"”] i have our truck i should have never sold the honda ☹ oh, and i hate you for pointing that out [/quote] Me too ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/9 "2007-05-17T12:53:40Z")
[quote=“Zer0DazE,post:5,topic:29462"”] with how cheap saab engines are, i may not even change the oil any more. just swap engines every year [/quote] i lol’ed ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/10 "2007-05-17T12:56:58Z")
[quote=“evolve,post:9,topic:29462"”] i lol’ed [/quote] stfu, and run fiber to my house ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/11 "2007-05-17T13:08:09Z")
😢 😢 ---
**Author:** ![articzap](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/articzap/32/7361_2.png) [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/12 "2007-05-17T13:09:04Z")
Get-r-Done ---
**Author:** ![the240sxone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@the240sxone](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/the240sxone)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/13 "2007-05-18T11:35:44Z")
saw this motor at innovative, looks very good condition! ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/14 "2007-05-18T11:56:53Z")
[quote=“Zer0DazE,post:10,topic:29462"”] stfu, and run fiber to my house [/quote] He’ll sell you some sweet wireless air cards which will be just as good… 😉 Hopefully this engine will be good for a while, nice pick up. What turbo are you going to put on it? ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/15 "2007-05-18T12:11:09Z")
[quote=“RuBiCaNT,post:14,topic:29462"”] He’ll sell you some sweet wireless air cards which will be just as good… 😉 [/quote] still OT, but what? evdo isnt close to what fios is ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/16 "2007-05-18T12:21:41Z")
[quote=“evolve,post:15,topic:29462"”] still OT, but what? **evdo isnt close to what fios is** [/quote] Hence the wink… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/17 "2007-05-18T12:30:03Z")
:ham: ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/18 "2007-05-18T12:57:41Z")
very true. rebuild 1 y/o GM LD9 for lots of money. replace with rebuilt one for lots of money. nope. buy used (3k miles) for $550 and laugh all the way home. ---
**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/19 "2007-05-18T18:41:55Z")
:tup: silly me the other day for suggesting the yellow block would be faster because it makes more hp, thanks for setting me straight :lol: ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-trouble-shoot-when-you-can-just-buy-a-better-motor-for-the-price-of-5-labor-hours/29462/20 "2007-05-19T05:39:12Z")
[quote=“RuBiCaNT,post:14,topic:29462"”] He’ll sell you some sweet wireless air cards which will be just as good… 😉 Hopefully this engine will be good for a while, nice pick up. What turbo are you going to put on it? [/quote] the 15g is going on there for now just to get the car back on the road again. it will probably end up with gt28rs71… i will do that when i do the exhaust and fmic, but all that has to wait until i pay for the other sick dog. [quote=“Adictd2b00st,post:19,topic:29462"”] :tup: silly me the other day for suggesting the yellow block would be faster because it makes more hp, thanks for setting me straight :lol: [/quote] and for those that dont know, yellow is faster because the pigment is lighter, not because it makes more power 🙂