# Why would you present this to the government?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-would-you-present-this-to-the-government/53931>\
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**Created:** [August 27, 2008, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-would-you-present-this-to-the-government/53931 "2008-08-27T06:57:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-would-you-present-this-to-the-government/53931/1 "2008-08-27T06:57:17Z")

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> **[The Internet's Biggest Security Hole Revealed - Slashdot](https://it.slashdot.org/story/08/08/27/0141247/the-internets-biggest-security-hole-revealed)**
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> At DEFCON, Tony Kapela and Alex Pilosov demonstrated a drastic weakness in the Internet's infrastructure that had long been rumored, but wasn't believed practical. They showed how to hijack BGP (the border gateway protocol) in order to eavesdrop on...

Let them figure it out themselves.

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**Author:** ![DeusExMachina](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deusexmachina/32/5036_2.png) [@DeusExMachina](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeusExMachina)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-would-you-present-this-to-the-government/53931/2 "2008-08-27T07:00:04Z")

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Why wouldn’t you present it to the government? Disclosure is how problems get fixed. Keeping things quiet allow them to be exploited.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-would-you-present-this-to-the-government/53931/3 "2008-08-27T07:08:08Z")

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> Peiter ‘Mudge’ Zatko, noted computer security expert and former member of the L0pht hacking group, who testified to Congress in 1998 that he could bring down the internet in 30 minutes using a similar BGP attack,

why am I not surprised that nothing has been done about it

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**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-would-you-present-this-to-the-government/53931/4 "2008-08-27T07:36:02Z")

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> [@Dr.Stevil](#):
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> why am I not surprised that nothing has been done about it

Im sure its going to be hard to find ways to prevent these attacks from being possible. You can find ways around these things, or just find another way.

And the government… Well, they suck.

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-would-you-present-this-to-the-government/53931/5 "2008-08-27T07:44:25Z")

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> [@DeusExMachina](#):
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> Why wouldn’t you present it to the government? Disclosure is how problems get fixed. Keeping things quiet allow them to be exploited.

Because as it was quoted, 12 years ago the same issue was shown to the government. Nothing has been fixed. Why give them a chance to use this against people to monitor internet traffic.
