# wideband needed and have questions **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [February 12, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wideband-needed-and-have-questions/250282 "2010-02-12T20:21:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wideband-needed-and-have-questions/250282/21 "2010-02-16T09:49:40Z")
> [@FF: Fish Tanks](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ff-fish-tanks/29328/4): > > +1 I have the LC1 in my jetta. I installed it right next to my OEM WB about 3 inches away from it. It is dead nuts on with the same reading through my Vag Com. I even calibraited it wrong, with the o2 still in the exhaust and its still on with readings. > > Yeah that part I dont like, I have a serial LC1 and a serial VAG-COM for the VW ECU, and only 1 port on the laptop. The software is nice and samples much faster than the VAG COM, but like you said there isnt an RPM readout, and I dont know how the controller would pick up rpms, I havent looked into it, because the VAG-COM logs WB AFR fine and it doenst matter to me right now to get the LC1 to log right. > > QUOTE=TurboTravis;547912]LC1 is just too tempremental to me… > > ooh the sensor is at the wrong angle…whoops, too close to the engine, oh wait, gotta recalibrate the sensor, etc etc… > > If you want something that works, everytime, with any fuel you throw at it (LC1’s use the Bosch sensor which has a short life with leaded fuel), get an FJO. > > But what do I know, I’ve only been using widebands since 2000. Dont know what you have going on there… I welded the bung on to the side of the pipe a few inches away from the stock WB O2. Even calibraited it in the pipe, your suposed to do it in fresh air hit the button and then stick it in the pipe and complete the process. Even with me not reading the directions its dead nuts on with the same readings as my stock WB O2. I even pulled the battery for 2 months on the car and fired it back up, didnt even calibrate it again, and once it warmed up it was again right on with the stock WB O2, i assume the controller has a watch battery backup or something.[/QUOTE] My Corvette makes an LC1 come up with an overheat message (sensor about a foot from the turbo), where as the FJO works fine. ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wideband-needed-and-have-questions/250282/22 "2010-02-16T10:55:14Z")
> [@so i'm home from hawaii....... can i go back now?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-im-home-from-hawaii-can-i-go-back-now/29362/8): > > Dont know what you have going on there… I welded the bung on to the side of the pipe a few inches away from the stock WB O2. Even calibraited it in the pipe, your suposed to do it in fresh air hit the button and then stick it in the pipe and complete the process. Even with me not reading the directions its dead nuts on with the same readings as my stock WB O2. > > I even pulled the battery for 2 months on the car and fired it back up, didnt even calibrate it again, and once it warmed up it was again right on with the stock WB O2, i assume the controller has a watch battery backup or something. My Corvette makes an LC1 come up with an overheat message (sensor about a foot from the turbo), where as the FJO works fine.[/QUOTE] Man I fucked up my quotes and in turn yours fucked up too. lol I was reading your quote from me above and was like wait that sounds like something I… ohhhh i see. lol Anyway, I am sure it has alot to do with being that close to the turbo… mine is about 1.5-2 feet from the turbo. Maybe the FJO has a better O2 or something. dunno. ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wideband-needed-and-have-questions/250282/23 "2010-02-16T10:56:01Z")
LOL fucking quote fail again. haha ---
**Author:** ![GearheadNY.com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@GearheadNY.com](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GearheadNY.com)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wideband-needed-and-have-questions/250282/24 "2010-02-16T16:23:20Z")
we have the AEM unit in stock for 190 let us know. ---
**Author:** ![lconrad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lconrad/32/6314_2.png) [@lconrad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lconrad)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wideband-needed-and-have-questions/250282/25 "2010-02-16T17:38:29Z")
FJO with the NTK sensor…I ran straight c16 for about 4 years and just replaced the sensor a year or so ago… ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wideband-needed-and-have-questions/250282/26 "2010-02-16T21:06:03Z")
> [@New race car paint job!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-race-car-paint-job/29374/7): > > FJO with the NTK sensor…I ran straight c16 for about 4 years and just replaced the sensor a year or so ago… And that FJO/sensor was purchased in 2002! ---
**Author:** ![Synapse\_Motorsport](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@Synapse\_Motorsport](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Synapse_Motorsport)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wideband-needed-and-have-questions/250282/27 "2010-02-17T05:07:57Z")
The AEM widebands are cheap, but trust me if your running racegas you will be going through sensors all the time. If you drive the car, you will be lucky if the sensor last a season. I had one burnout in 2 hours on the dyno, lol! PlX makes good widebands for the money and last pretty well, my next wideband is a MOTEC PLM with an NTK sensor. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wideband-needed-and-have-questions/250282/28 "2010-02-17T05:58:17Z")
> [@so i'm home from hawaii....... can i go back now?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-im-home-from-hawaii-can-i-go-back-now/29362/14): > > The AEM widebands are cheap, but trust me if your running racegas you will be going through sensors all the time. If you drive the car, you will be lucky if the sensor last a season. I had one burnout in 2 hours on the dyno, lol! PlX makes good widebands for the money and last pretty well, my next wideband is a MOTEC PLM with an NTK sensor. Hmm, Sooo I guess I’ll be steering away from an AEM wideband :lol ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wideband-needed-and-have-questions/250282/29 "2010-02-17T06:24:52Z")
> [@so i'm home from hawaii....... can i go back now?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-im-home-from-hawaii-can-i-go-back-now/29362/14): > > The AEM widebands are cheap, but trust me if your running racegas you will be going through sensors all the time. If you drive the car, you will be lucky if the sensor last a season. I had one burnout in 2 hours on the dyno, lol! PlX makes good widebands for the money and last pretty well, my next wideband is a MOTEC PLM with an NTK sensor. Great unit, although very expensive. What advantages does it have over an FJO? Most people just integrate the wideband signal into the ECU… ---
**Author:** ![Synapse\_Motorsport](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@Synapse\_Motorsport](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Synapse_Motorsport)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wideband-needed-and-have-questions/250282/30 "2010-02-18T05:56:20Z")
> [@OFFICIAL Buffalo Sabres Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-buffalo-sabres-thread/25170/5621): > > Great unit, although very expensive. What advantages does it have over an FJO? Most people just integrate the wideband signal into the ECU… Compact, I have been using a plm on my dyno for 5 years and love it, I tune over a 100 cars a year and I like knowing that when I need something to be reliable it is everytime. Don’t get me wrong the fjo is a great wideband, but the Motec has worked great for me. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wideband-needed-and-have-questions/250282.md?page=1)