# Wildlife photography fail **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 20, 2010, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434 "2010-01-20T11:34:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/1 "2010-01-20T11:34:25Z")
> **[BBC News - Jumping wolf photographer loses wildlife prize](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm)** > > The winner of a major wildlife photography award is disqualified because the wolf featured in his photograph was likely a "model". > Mr Carwardine explained that he and his fellow judges had gathered evidence and sought the opinions of wolf experts in order to reach their decision. > The experts compared the winning picture to pictures of Ossian, a tame wolf that lives at a zoological park near Madrid called Canada Real. > “You can see several very distinctive markings and the experts all agreed that, yes, it’s the same wolf,” said Mr Carwardine. > “We disqualified [Mr Rodriguez] and banned him for life from entering the competition again, so I think that sends a strong message.” Hey, check out my sweet wildlife shot of this tame wolf that I rented and had make the jump over and over until I got my ultimate “wild” shot. FAIL ---
**Author:** ![dawn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dawn/32/7209_2.png) [@dawn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dawn)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/2 "2010-01-20T11:35:54Z")
HAHAHA. It is a nice picture though. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/3 "2010-01-20T11:38:45Z")
It’s a gorgeous shot and I’m sure a lot of work went in to capturing it. But since he’s using a trained wolf it doesn’t qualify as being “wildlife”, certainly not wildlife photographer of the year wildlife. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/4 "2010-01-20T11:39:20Z")
No shit it’s fake. “You mean a wild wolf wouldn’t jump over a fence towards you when you are close enough for your flash to light him up in the dark?” ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/5 "2010-01-20T11:42:49Z")
^ The guy claimed he was using remote triggers on a camera he set up in the wild after observing the wolves traveling that path. I remember reading about the setup when the awards were given out. Found this translated page about how the whole investigation started. [http://www.suomenluonto.fi/bbcs-nature-photo-competition-judge-admits-winner-photo-investigated-due-to-fraud-allegations](http://www.suomenluonto.fi/bbcs-nature-photo-competition-judge-admits-winner-photo-investigated-due-to-fraud-allegations) ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/6 "2010-01-20T11:44:16Z")
No kidding. Would have been a hell of a shot. ---
**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/7 "2010-01-20T11:55:26Z")
Looking at the comparison pictures, they don’t look the same. There is a lot more brown on the nose area of the winning picture than Ossian, the claimed rental. Sure, theres a black dot… big whoop. I’ve seen 100’s of gerbils with white spots on their heads, because all gerbils look similar. Wolves do to. Take the picture below of two wolves… and then argue that it’s two different wolves and I didn’t just photoshop two identical wolves from two different photos together. You can’t, because they look identical… because they are. Or are they? I’m sure out of all of the wolves in the world, more than one has a black fur spot under their eyes… ![http://naturescrusaders.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/realwolvespic62.jpg](http://naturescrusaders.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/realwolvespic62.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/8 "2010-01-20T12:06:04Z")
That picture would make an awesome tee shirt. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/9 "2010-01-20T12:12:47Z")
^Hahah I was thinking the EXACT same thing! ---
**Author:** ![dawn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dawn/32/7209_2.png) [@dawn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dawn)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/10 "2010-01-20T12:28:38Z")
needs more wolf. and maybe a moon. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/11 "2010-01-20T12:31:37Z")
lol. i love my wolf t-shirt. best $1 ive ever spent at amvets ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/94wvwglxvr6/wolf.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/94wvwglxvr6/wolf.jpg) he’s pensive. deep in thought. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/12 "2010-01-20T12:32:23Z")
> [@dawn](#): > > needs more wolf. and maybe a moon. You need more wolf. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/13 "2010-01-20T12:40:04Z")
you know what needs more wolf? your face ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/14 "2010-01-20T12:41:01Z")
:tup: I was waiting for that response lol ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/15 "2010-01-20T12:49:29Z")
> [@Motocrossx23](#): > > You need more wolf. Thats what she said. ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/16 "2010-01-20T15:55:43Z")
> [@Clean Baldy](#): > > Looking at the comparison pictures, they don’t look the same. There is a lot more brown on the nose area of the winning picture than Ossian, the claimed rental. > > Sure, theres a black dot… big whoop. I’ve seen 100’s of gerbils with white spots on their heads, because all gerbils look similar. Wolves do to. > > Take the picture below of two wolves… and then argue that it’s two different wolves and I didn’t just photoshop two identical wolves from two different photos together. You can’t, because they look identical… because they are. Or are they? I’m sure out of all of the wolves in the world, more than one has a black fur spot under their eyes… > > ![http://naturescrusaders.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/realwolvespic62.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/0/7/073cbb647ecb7c7d77ad35f7724769bf9a97819f.jpeg) You seriously can’t spot a difference between those that you posted? Do you know the difference between your toilet and your shower? ---
**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/17 "2010-01-20T16:39:11Z")
> [@66impalass](#): > > You seriously can’t spot a difference between those that you posted? Do you know the difference between your toilet and your shower? i pee in the shower :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/18 "2010-01-20T16:53:08Z")
> [@Jam](#): > > you know what needs more wolf? your face +1 on your sig. I was almost kinda confused a few times. ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wildlife-photography-fail/78434/19 "2010-01-20T17:19:00Z")
> [@travisn](#): > > i pee in the shower :gotme: I am also sure you bath in your toilet