# Will history remember Bush as a "bad" president? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 10, 2009, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056 "2009-01-10T08:08:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/21 "2009-01-10T11:11:49Z")
Military = Super secret news network access? I don’t agree with Jeg that the dems share of the blame is bigger than the gop’s, but for instance, Clinton signed the Graham Leach Bliley act that allowed banks to take on more risk than they have been able to since the Great Depression. It was a republican sponsored bill that wound up being veto-proof so Clinton had no choice. There’s more to it, beyond what I could pretend to understand, and I’m sure Bush could have done things better, but he didn’t accidentally the whole economy. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/22 "2009-01-10T11:13:12Z")
lol sorry Joe, I sparked another “I know nothing about macroeconomics but here is why people are getting laid off” debates. ---
**Author:** ![cteclipse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@cteclipse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cteclipse)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/23 "2009-01-10T11:13:51Z")
JEG, you don’t know what you are talking about. I think Bush will be remembered for starting a 2nd vietnam, and being an international joke. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/24 "2009-01-10T11:17:33Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > lol sorry Joe, I sparked another “I know nothing about macroeconomics but here is why people are getting laid off” debates. damn it Fry. But anyway, you didn’t figure out how it works yet. All Republicans have perfect economic policies that are designed to magically kick in the exact second a Democrat takes office. All Democrats have absolutely horrible economic policies that magically kick in the second a Republican takes office. I’d look for Bush’s awesome economic policy to start improving things around 1/20/09. :picard: ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/25 "2009-01-10T11:19:55Z")
[http://www.harpers.org/archive/2008/02/0081908](http://www.harpers.org/archive/2008/02/0081908) Lengthy but a VERY good read. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/26 "2009-01-10T11:28:15Z")
> [@bobbyg1243](#): > > [http://87billion.com/](http://87billion.com/) > > read that Jeg, let it sink in for a couple minutes. Now think about the bailout and all the other problems we are having right now…how can these problems be solved? How can we spend 87 BILLION dollars on a fucking war that has done nothing but empty our pockets and for what? to rid a person who is equivalent to our own president? Why is it that we spend 87 billion on a war, and everyone throws a shit fit, yet we waste **700 BILLION** trying to bail out the housing market fuckup, and thats fine? Perhapse you aren’t very good at math :gotme: but 700 \> 87. Bush pushed for reform of the way Fanny May and Freddy Mac were being so careless. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/27 "2009-01-10T11:30:21Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > damn it Fry. > But anyway, you didn’t figure out how it works yet. > All Republicans have perfect economic policies that are designed to magically kick in the exact second a Democrat takes office. All Democrats have absolutely horrible economic policies that magically kick in the second a Republican takes office. > > I’d look for Bush’s awesome economic policy to start improving things around 1/20/09. :picard: Finally he understands… ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/28 "2009-01-10T11:32:22Z")
hmmmmmm because maybe the housing market is something we HAVE to do. Its our country. This war is not a fucking necessity, its a waste it taxpayers money. What other choice do we have for the housing market, its not like if we dont do anything it will just go away, something has to be done. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/29 "2009-01-10T11:34:38Z")
> **[Cost of National Security](https://www.nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/?redirect=cow)** > > What counts as national security depends on your perspective. These embeddable counters track how much the U.S. spends on a variety of programs that protect our future, from military to food assistance. Do our nation's spending choices align with... by 87 i assume he meant 587. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/30 "2009-01-10T11:36:20Z")
well if you look that 87 was back in 2003. so in 5 years, its gone up that much. awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/31 "2009-01-10T11:37:43Z")
not to mention that the bailout was loans, which will be paid back, unless the companies go out of business, with interest. Iraq is not going to cut us a check for a few hundred billion dollars. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/32 "2009-01-10T11:37:47Z")
Something **HAD** to be done. But it wasn’t. I’m sure you have seen the videos where they urged the dems to reform and they refused saying nothing was wrong, even as the system was crashing down. It boils down to people got greedy as fuck. Seriously, read that hyperlink I posted a little bit ago. it is quite long, but it explains the economic situations from like the past hundred years and why everything is the way it is today. Its a very good read. Not some GOP or DEM bs, but a non bias explanation. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/33 "2009-01-10T11:39:22Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > not to mention that the bailout was loans, which will be paid back, unless the companies go out of business, with interest. Iraq is not going to cut us a check for a few hundred billion dollars. Awesome becuase all those mortgages are gonna be paid back too right :bloated: ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/34 "2009-01-10T11:42:01Z")
jeg is going on the ignore list until 1/20. His economic posts are to my no talking about politics vow what drunk naked bitches in your bed are to a vow of chastity. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/35 "2009-01-10T11:44:04Z")
Jeg, seriously man, your not an expert. stop trying to talk down to everyone, you look like a fool and you are playing with fire right now. Those mortgages will be paid back some way or another. The government will get their money, the banks will get their money, and the taxpayers, well they will just get fucked like always. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/36 "2009-01-10T11:50:19Z")
i cant beleive this poll is that close. Bush is the worst president in modern history and will be remembered as such. i cant even be bothered to read what most of you are typing. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/37 "2009-01-10T11:53:37Z")
> [@bobbyg1243](#): > > Jeg, seriously man, your not an expert. stop trying to talk down to everyone, you look like a fool and you are playing with fire right now. > > Those mortgages will be paid back some way or another. The government will get their money, the banks will get their money, and the taxpayers, well they will just get fucked like always. Sorry I will try to be more like you and Joe and just trust the the government to do what is right and rule my life without question, but only if they are democrats. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/38 "2009-01-10T11:57:14Z")
dude… seriously just stop posting. you contradict yourself, you clearly have no idea what your talking about and your theories are just way too fucking out there to deserve any sort of credit whatsoever. Your stupidity has earned yourself a spot in my signature. a person of your intelligence clearly doesnt belong in a political thread. save yourself the trouble and just stop posting. ---
**Author:** ![Karter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/39 "2009-01-10T11:58:36Z")
Yeah Iraq was a threat because they have WOMD, you know that they were going to tie to rocks and throw here. They have no air force and I’m convinced we can shoot down missals with patriots all over again. They are / were no threat. So yes tring to finish daddys war, and doing nothing after he was warned about 9/11 and the governments poor response to katrina. Yes he will go down as the biggest failed abortion in the world. ---
**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056/40 "2009-01-10T12:07:41Z")
If carter isn’t looked upon as a terrible president to most people, then I doubt bush will either. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-history-remember-bush-as-a-bad-president/61056.md?page=3)