# Winter tires........ Yes, it is June/July and looking for them

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**Created:** [June 30, 2008, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-tires-yes-it-is-june-july-and-looking-for-them/50845 "2008-06-30T17:21:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![MazerMadness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90db22/32.png) [@MazerMadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MazerMadness)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-tires-yes-it-is-june-july-and-looking-for-them/50845/21 "2008-06-30T21:04:59Z")

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ive had blizzaks and dunlop winter sport m3’s. blizzaks were much better.

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**Author:** ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-tires-yes-it-is-june-july-and-looking-for-them/50845/22 "2008-07-01T07:23:14Z")

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Winterforce \> \*

I guarantee you can get them in a size that will work on your car.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-tires-yes-it-is-june-july-and-looking-for-them/50845/23 "2008-07-01T07:44:04Z")

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I had a set of Dunlop Wintersport M2’s. They were OK but definitely geared more toward the performance end than the snow end of the spectrum (sold as a performance snow tire).

Last winter I ran a set if Hankook iPike 409’s and loved them. Little squirmy on dry pavement when pushing them hard but that’s what you get with an aggressive winter tread. Very little wear on them after one winter too.

> **[Hankook Winter iPike W409 Tire Tires user reviews : 4.3 out of 5 - 0 reviews -...](http://www.carreview.com/product/parts/tires/hankook/winter-ipike-w409-tire.html)**
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> Hankook Winter iPike W409 Tire Tires user reviews : 4.3 out of 5 - 0 reviews - carreview.com

[www.discounttiredirect.com](http://www.discounttiredirect.com) usually has good deals on them in the late summer/early fall.

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**Author:** ![skatanic28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@skatanic28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skatanic28)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-tires-yes-it-is-june-july-and-looking-for-them/50845/24 "2008-07-01T07:48:45Z")

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never had a problem with blizzaks, usually got 2-3 winters out of them

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-tires-yes-it-is-june-july-and-looking-for-them/50845/25 "2008-07-01T07:50:11Z")

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blizzaks have a reputation for working well when new but quickly turning into an all season.  
hakkas are the shit, but make sure you REALLY need them because they are almost a little too hardcore for most needs.  
M2/M3 are my favorite… I know how to drive and they give me the highest winter driving limits when it comes to fun and traction on ice / snow…

beyond that you’re hit and miss…

as I always say about tires… if the best steak you’ve ever had was a hamburger, of course you’ll give a cheeseburger a great review, even if it’s no steak.

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**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-tires-yes-it-is-june-july-and-looking-for-them/50845/26 "2008-07-01T08:08:52Z")

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I’ve driven cars with other more expensive snows than winterforces, and just did not see the increased performance to be close enough to warrant the double or more price difference.

Spending $500+ on winter tires that can be on the car for $250 for nearly the same performance level seems absurd to me.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-tires-yes-it-is-june-july-and-looking-for-them/50845/27 "2008-07-01T08:16:55Z")

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if you can’t tell then you can’t drive… but with that said most people don’t drive anywhere near the limits of a tire so they won’t benefit from a better tire. (except maybe in a panic braking situation – but we’re talking about winter driving so that will never happen, right?)

it’s never about getting moving, it’s about stopping, overheating, and lateral grip 😃

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-tires-yes-it-is-june-july-and-looking-for-them/50845/28 "2008-07-01T08:20:20Z")

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> [@Bigairskier1580](#):
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> If you go SLIGHTLY taller in the sidewall, you can get the Winterforce’s in 205/60/16 which will be $60, other snows are going to be $100+ int eh size you want. My personal opinion.

once I mount them for the test fit and they dont fit can i return them?

> [@fairgentleman Z](#):
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> Most economical suggestion in the thread, opinion gets replaced with fact when a hand can be run across the back parimeter of the stock fitment tire without knuckles contacting suspension components to account for the ~10mm growth in tire radius.

yeah, that is what i am thinking

> [@dozr](#):
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> Winterforce \> \*
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> I guarantee you can get them in a size that will work on your car.

i think i might go with the -60

> [@theblue](#):
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> blizzaks have a reputation for working well when new but quickly turning into an all season.  
> hakkas are the shit, but make sure you REALLY need them because they are almost a little too hardcore for most needs.  
> M2/M3 are my favorite… I know how to drive and they give me the highest winter driving limits when it comes to fun and traction on ice / snow…
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> beyond that you’re hit and miss…
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> as I always say about tires… if the best steak you’ve ever had was a hamburger, of course you’ll give a cheeseburger a great review, even if it’s no steak.

i dont think my wife will push the tires to the limit, but i could be wrong.

> [@Bigairskier1580](#):
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> I’ve driven cars with other more expensive snows than winterforces, and just did not see the increased performance to be close enough to warrant the double or more price difference.
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> Spending $500+ on winter tires that can be on the car for $250 for nearly the same performance level seems absurd to me.

see above repiles

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-tires-yes-it-is-june-july-and-looking-for-them/50845/29 "2008-07-01T08:39:49Z")

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[http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51839](http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51839)

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-tires-yes-it-is-june-july-and-looking-for-them/50845/30 "2008-07-01T17:32:38Z")

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Funny, I was just looking up winter tires the other day.

The all season firestones that I bought sucked when they were brand new last year, in the snow.

This year I’m going for a set of dedicated snows, mounted on 14 inch steelies.

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**Author:** ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-tires-yes-it-is-june-july-and-looking-for-them/50845/31 "2008-07-01T17:43:19Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> if you can’t tell then you can’t drive… but with that said most people don’t drive anywhere near the limits of a tire so they won’t benefit from a better tire. (except maybe in a panic braking situation – but we’re talking about winter driving so that will never happen, right?)
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> it’s never about getting moving, it’s about stopping, overheating, and lateral grip 😃

I can drive, and I love/swear by winterforce tires.

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**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-tires-yes-it-is-june-july-and-looking-for-them/50845/32 "2008-07-01T18:28:31Z")

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If you are interested I have a set of Copper Weathermasters 205/55 16" that I was considering selling. They are 2 seasons old first season was on my 06 325ci and this last season was on my 08 Subaru Impreza. Plenty of tread left.

I was considering doing 250 for the whole set.

Just a thought!

Personal preference would have to be Hakka, Blizzak or Copper (with Hankook coming a close third)

The Copper’s are quite similar to WS-55 Blizzak.

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