# wiring trouble shooting 101 need help

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wiring-trouble-shooting-101-need-help/69649
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [June 24, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wiring-trouble-shooting-101-need-help/69649 "2009-06-24T18:18:54Z")
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### Author: ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wiring-trouble-shooting-101-need-help/69649/1 "2009-06-24T18:18:54Z")

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problem no VSS signal. here is what I got so far.

Turn meter on  
  
test meter

this is a old VSS I had laying around from over 3 years ago. all data says the following

> **Is resistance between 190 and 250 ohms?**  
> the meter is showing a near short correct? in other words a bad sensor.

this is the VSS I just removed from the car and is about a year old. This also shows the same thing as the last sensor. does this mean I have two bad sensors in my possession?

PCM harness pin 3 and pin 6

again PCM harness pin 3 and pin 6. the other side of the harness is disconnected so shouldn’t the meter show nothing or open circuit?

this is what alldata has to say.

> - Key “OFF”.
> - Disconnect [Powertrain Control Module](http://www.alldatapro.com/alldata/PRO%7EV126608058%7EC12391%7ER0%7EOD%7EN/0/41746445/56351136/56351148/56351152/34853741/34857029/34857030/101367478) **(PCM)**. Inspect for damaged or pushed out pins, corrosion, loose wires, etc. Service as necessary.
> - Install breakout box, PCM disconnected.
> - Disconnect [Vehicle Speed Sensor](http://www.alldatapro.com/alldata/PRO%7EV126608058%7EC12391%7ER0%7EOD%7EN/0/41746445/56351136/56351148/56351152/34853741/34857029/34857030/101367133) **(VSS)**.
> - Measure resistance between test pin 3 at the breakout box and [VSS](http://www.alldatapro.com/alldata/PRO%7EV126608058%7EC12391%7ER0%7EOD%7EN/0/41746445/56351136/56351148/56351152/34853741/34857029/34857030/101367133) (+) circuit at the VSS vehicle harness connector.
> - Measure resistance between test pin 6 at the breakout box and [VSS](http://www.alldatapro.com/alldata/PRO%7EV126608058%7EC12391%7ER0%7EOD%7EN/0/41746445/56351136/56351148/56351152/34853741/34857029/34857030/101367133) (-) circuit at the VSS vehicle harness connector.
> - **Is each resistance less than 5.0 ohms?**
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> Yes – Go to DP3. [See: DP3 - Check VSS Signal Harness For Shorts to Power or Ground](http://www.alldatapro.com/alldata/PRO%7EV126608058%7EC12391%7ER0%7EOD%7EN/0/41746445/56351136/56351148/56351152/34853741/34857029/34857030/34857663/123117138/141565460/141565479)  
> No – Service open circuit. Remove breakout box. Reconnect all components. Repeat test step DP1 drive cycle to verify elimination of Diagnostic Trouble Code **(DTC)** or drive complaint. [See: DP1 - Complete VSS Drive Cycle](http://www.alldatapro.com/alldata/PRO%7EV126608058%7EC12391%7ER0%7EOD%7EN/0/41746445/56351136/56351148/56351152/34853741/34857029/34857030/34857663/123117138/141565460/141565466)

same pic from above just with less harry arm and more meter.

I must be reading this meter wrong because i’m seeing about 22ohm right? help me out here

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### Author: ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wiring-trouble-shooting-101-need-help/69649/2 "2009-06-24T19:20:14Z")

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kinda looks like the sensor is bad.

for the wiring test. they are saying to measure the resistance of each wire from the ECM connector to the VSS connector. i dont have a wiring diagram to determine what else might be connected to that circuit to cause what appears to be a 22 ohm resistance across those terminals.

Brian

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### Author: ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wiring-trouble-shooting-101-need-help/69649/3 "2009-06-24T19:30:47Z")

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> [@reliant\_turbo](#):
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> kinda looks like the sensor is bad.
> 
> for the wiring test. they are saying to measure the resistance of each wire from the ECM connector to the VSS connector. i dont have a wiring diagram to determine what else might be connected to that circuit to cause what appears to be a 22 ohm resistance across those terminals.
> 
> Brian

that is what I don’t get. There is nothing inline and nothing connected at the other end unless something is built into the connector which would be odd. here is the diagram for the circuit.

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### Author: ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wiring-trouble-shooting-101-need-help/69649/4 "2009-06-24T20:05:14Z")

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the first thing i would do is get a nice digital multimeter.

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### Author: ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wiring-trouble-shooting-101-need-help/69649/5 "2009-06-25T05:01:59Z")

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i dont see a wiring diagram?

Brian
