# WNY-SCCA last two events Sept 18th & Oct 2nd ECC-N **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 13, 2011, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462 "2011-09-13T11:06:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/1 "2011-09-13T11:06:49Z")
Last two auto-X events for this year. So if you recently bought a Civic or MR2 that was a previous auto-X car, or a Mini Cooper or S2000 that has reputable poor handling, or have a high mileage “European tuned suspension” BMW that is only capable of doing siq heaterz, or a lightweight Japanese car with a V8 swap, come on out and learn how use the 15" round thing that sits in front of your chest. wanna drive, bring like $25 ~ $30 bucks or something, and get there by 9 a.m. wanna watch, that shit is FREE, show up around 11 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. hungry? try one of my tasty wieners, i’m cheap. Pre-registration encouraged (but not required) : [http://www.wny-scca.com/soloreg/login.php](http://www.wny-scca.com/soloreg/login.php) ECCN - Erie Community College, North Campus Main Street and Wehrle Drive, Williamsville, NY Map: [http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.961322,-78.722363&spn=0.015232,0.043945&z=15](http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.961322,-78.722363&spn=0.015232,0.043945&z=15) Enter from Wehrle drive ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/2 "2011-09-13T11:55:15Z")
In for the champagne run. ---
**Author:** ![8thcivic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/8thcivic/32/5391_2.png) [@8thcivic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/8thcivic)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/3 "2011-09-13T12:38:04Z")
idk about 18 but defiantly going to one that’s on second ---
**Author:** ![99\_civic\_si](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99_civic_si/32/7319_2.png) [@99\_civic\_si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99_civic_si)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/4 "2011-09-13T13:22:12Z")
I’ll be there just to make sure those of you who said you were going actually show up. Then when you don’t I’m going to call you names on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/5 "2011-09-13T14:16:47Z")
Gonna try for one. Must be clear weather though. Need the t-tops off to fit with those damn helmets. BTW, whats the helmet certification again? Apparently my snowmobile / motorcycle helmet with save me up to 110 mph but no good at 30. ---
**Author:** ![HallockR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hallockr/32/5331_2.png) [@HallockR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HallockR)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/6 "2011-09-13T14:28:24Z")
Snell 2005+, there are rentals available for free there. ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/7 "2011-09-13T15:47:53Z")
Yeah, I borrowed last time but it’s just above borrowing condoms. Would like to do some more track events so may end up buying one. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![99\_civic\_si](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99_civic_si/32/7319_2.png) [@99\_civic\_si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99_civic_si)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/8 "2011-09-14T03:15:48Z")
It can be an M rated helmet that’s fine. But as mentioned above it must still be snell 2005 or newer. ---
**Author:** ![dp2387](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dp2387](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dp2387)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/9 "2011-09-14T07:13:50Z")
It’s 2000 or newer. And yeah, M or SA are fine. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/10 "2011-09-14T07:16:28Z")
> [@dp2387](#): > > It’s 2000 or newer. And yeah, M or SA are fine. I didn’t think SCCA had moved all the way up to 2005 requirement but wasn’t sure so I didn’t say anything. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![baseball24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/baseball24/32/7452_2.png) [@baseball24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/baseball24)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/11 "2011-09-14T14:42:48Z")
I almost want to try one of these just to see if I can get my heavy ass F body to turn some corners ---
**Author:** ![99\_civic\_si](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99_civic_si/32/7319_2.png) [@99\_civic\_si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99_civic_si)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/12 "2011-09-15T04:45:32Z")
> [@baseball24](#): > > I almost want to try one of these just to see if I can get my heavy ass F body to turn some corners You’d be amazed to see that it will do very well actually. Just because every ricer who drives a civic thinks they can smoke “powerful domestics” in the “twisties” doesn’t actually mean that it’s true. But really, I’ll smoke you in the twisties :). ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/13 "2011-09-15T07:10:14Z")
> [@99\_civic\_si](#): > > I’ll be there just to make sure those of you who said you were going actually show up. Then when you don’t I’m going to call you names on the internet. Nah I’m going to buy car XYZ based on it’s sporty handling prowess, then I’m going to drive back road twisties and on ramps at 4/10ths and think I’m really going fast. ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/14 "2011-09-15T07:34:14Z")
You make it sound like auto-x is the second coming of Jesus Christ, and anyone not doing it is crazy… ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/15 "2011-09-16T07:49:54Z")
not crazy , just posers, ![http://image.weather.com/web/common/wxicons/52/32.gif?12122006](http://image.weather.com/web/common/wxicons/52/32.gif?12122006) **73\* and 0%** ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/16 "2011-09-16T07:54:47Z")
That’s a pretty outrageous statement…I’ll be sure to call everyone I know this week with a Civic, MR2, Mini Cooper, S2000, and anything else high end and European, to let them know they are all posers if they don’t come out to auto-x…fuck the fact that maybe, just maybe, they might have other things going on in their lives that take some form of precedence on what is likely their only day off… ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/17 "2011-09-16T08:05:26Z")
I’m split between the two of you. If you have a car and are an auto-enthusiast it’s pretty lame if you’ve never tried autocrossing at least once. It’s a lot of fun and a legitimate place to actually push your car and skills. At the same time, I can totally see not doing it a ton because the money and time invested is pretty high considering how little actual racing you get to do. $30 and the majority of my Sunday spent working on course for 4 to 7 minutes of actual seat time just isn’t enough return on my investment. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/18 "2011-09-16T08:10:51Z")
> [@91MR2](#): > > to let them know they are all posers if they don’t come out to auto-x… no, not all of them, just the ones that would rather “pose” their car for pictures than drive it. ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/19 "2011-09-16T08:48:31Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > I’m split between the two of you. > > If you have a car and are an auto-enthusiast it’s pretty lame if you’ve never tried autocrossing at least once. It’s a lot of fun and a legitimate place to actually push your car and skills. > > At the same time, I can totally see not doing it a ton because the money and time invested is pretty high considering how little actual racing you get to do. $30 and the majority of my Sunday spent working on course for 4 to 7 minutes of actual seat time just isn’t enough return on my investment. Well, I have auto-x’ed…multiple times…and I enjoyed it very much. I’d love to have the free time like I once had to do it more, but I don’t. The truth of the matter is I spend every other w/e in NYC with my wife, driving there every time. I spend a lot of time in cars to begin with. Also, the w/e’s that I am in town, I am taking care of my house, teaching tennis, and handling other things that had to wait from the previous w/e when I was gone. In the limited free time I have, if I want to drive my car as I see fit, or take some photos of it, I am going to. But, in doing so, I’m not going to feel like any less of an enthsiast, JUST because I missed the local auto-x event. This thread has a lot of asshole remarks that were just completely unprovoked. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462/20 "2011-09-16T09:20:12Z")
I’ve already covered this topic before: > [@91MR2](#): > > … teaching tennis… > [@Driver School at Watkins Glen](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driver-school-at-watkins-glen/214941/24): > > No, I’m not, your lifestyle choice is that you would rather have a nice DD than drive a car on track or in a race environment. You could still have the same reliable transportation in a cheaper DD and have money left over. > > My lifestyle choice is that I would rather spend more money racing than I would on A to B transportation (I still have that same G20). For me cars is about driving, not cruises, not picnics, not photo shoots, not meets, not owning the cleanest, rarest, swapiest. The ultimate form of driving is racing against other cars (or trees). Why more self proclaimed car enthusiast don’t make it to at the very least a track day beyond me. > > **IMO nice DDs are a waste of money, racing is also a waste of money. If I were smart I would take up tennis.** > [@JayS](#): > > At the same time, I can totally see not doing it a ton because the money and time invested is pretty high considering how little actual racing you get to do. $30 and the majority of my Sunday spent working on course for 4 to 7 minutes of actual seat time just isn’t enough return on my investment. The “popular” choice of the average “enthusiast” : Is spending $1500 on coilovers, $700 on wheels, just to get the right “stance” and then spending a few hours on the weekend to get siq rolling shots a wise investment? [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-last-two-events-sept-18th-oct-2nd-ecc-n/216462.md?page=2)