# WNYFBody stolen...
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [October 2, 2006, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366 "2006-10-02T17:08:44Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 8
### Author:  [@mike72678](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike72678)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2006, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/141 "2006-10-02T23:02:01Z")
stop the name calling turbo , just run and stop talking then , I know he will do it , from a dig of course .
do I have to start a new post ? jees .
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### Author:  [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2006, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/142 "2006-10-02T23:05:03Z")
> [@mike72678](#):
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> stop the name calling turbo , just run and stop talking then , I know he will do it , from a dig of course .
>
> do I have to start a new post ? jees .
mike i think 2stroke has brainwashed you. did he put u up to this? has he…?
u see what im dealing with talking to you guys.
i will continue for as long as your buddy keeps it up. when i get gears, i will take it to the track. and i will get gears
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### Author:  [@Pass\_McGass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pass_McGass)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2006, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/143 "2006-10-02T23:05:40Z")
> [@neurokinetik](#):
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> When you are at the bottom of a pile-on, it’s hard for anybody to hear you speak…
As true as this may be, there are quite a few people who have been talking about him and his shady practices for a while now. I also would have a really hard time believing that mark would WANT to come up with something like this and ruin Jay’s reputation.
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### Author:  [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2006, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/144 "2006-10-02T23:05:51Z")
Don’t make me start banning more people.
Keep it Civil. Stay on topic. Take that other stuff to PMs. Last warning.
2 Stroke, turbols1, chill please.
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### Author:  [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2006, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/145 "2006-10-02T23:09:19Z")
okay im done with this thread…i dont feel like getting banned.
i was trying to keep this civil while attending to 2stroka on the side…but its a losing battle…
continue :roll2:
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### Author:  [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2006, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/146 "2006-10-02T23:10:39Z")
> [@turbo ls1 ss](#):
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> i am remaining 100% NEUTRAL in this whole ordeal. i am torn between 2 groups of great friends that i choose not to take eithers’ side on. i am not denying, nor implying any truth to any statements made. of course there are 2 sides to every story. some things can be explained, some cant be. for jason to try to defend himself would be useless, because for anything he might say to defend himself (whether it be true or not), he’d have 1043593 people jumping right back at him. right now its getting rediculous. this is just a jnj bash-fest. everyone has seen this thread, and can have their opinion on it. we have competing shops loving this. they are obviously bumping this thread to keep the pain rolling. its not like some of his competition havent done shady acts towards him, im sure they wouldnt want that shared.
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> regardless…everyone has seen this, everyone can have their opinion…and i think there is nothing much left to say. it would be wise and considerate to lock this thread. no uses beating a dead horse
When you say competing shops and shady acts I hope you don’t mean me because i posted in this thread…to my knowledge I have done nothing to Jay.
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### Author:  [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2006, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/147 "2006-10-02T23:13:05Z")
I think I have met both Mark and Jason (I think that’s his name). Maybe only one time though. Don’t really remember much about either of them.
But god damn, there is a lot of hate going on. I think I’m going to go in the den and punch my sister.
I’m just kidding, I don’t have a sister. Nor do I have a den.
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### Author:  [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2006, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/148 "2006-10-02T23:14:23Z")
> [@turbo ls1 ss](#):
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> okay im done with this thread…i dont feel like getting banned.
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> i was trying to keep this civil while attending to 2stroka on the side…but its a losing battle…
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> continue :roll2:
As long as the 2 stroka stuff is kept to the side (i.e out of this thread), there shouldn’t be a problem. :tup:
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### Author:  [@Pass\_McGass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pass_McGass)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2006, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/149 "2006-10-02T23:15:10Z")
> [@Rx3](#):
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> Don’t make me start banning more people.
>
> Keep it Civil. Stay on topic. Take that other stuff to PMs. Last warning.
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> 2 Stroke, turbols1, chill please.
lol, you edited this because you posted immediately after me…and you just banned me the other day :lol:
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### Author:  [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2006, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/150 "2006-10-02T23:19:32Z")
> [@Carnut](#):
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> When you say competing shops and shady acts I hope you don’t mean me because i posted in this thread…to my knowledge I have done nothing to Jay.
no i wasnt talking about you. nor innovative. mainly any f-body related business/shop/organization/group. as we all know, the name of the game is competition, whether it be in the street or the office. as much as we all would like to try to work together, most of us come to realize that doesnt always happen in the real world. i am not blaming, accusing, etc any of these shops cuz noones an angle, no one is completely innocent. afterall, it is competition.
i know i said i was done in this thread, but i didnt want people to think i was putting their shops down
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### Author:  [@Geoff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geoff)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/151 "2006-10-03T00:10:16Z")
JnJ treated me very poorly when I was a **potential** customer a few years ago.
big :tdown: to this guy.
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### Author:  [@\_nails](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_nails)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/152 "2006-10-03T00:15:09Z")
that’s bad.
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### Author:  [@Gleason](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gleason)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/153 "2006-10-03T00:23:54Z")
lol I went to [wnyGTO.org](http://wnyGTO.org) and guess who the newest member is.
""Western New York GTO Statistics Threads: 15, Posts: 56, Members: 17, Active Members: 17
Welcome to our newest member, [J&J Speed Shop](http://www.wnygto.org/member.php?u=17)
“”"
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### Author:  [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/154 "2006-10-03T02:34:05Z")
> [@Studderin](#):
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> mark can you guys get it back?
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> or are you just gona start a new palce?
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> upstate NY Fbody?
re: ownership of the domain / website:
it’s probably been mentioned, but you can complain to the domain registrar that it was stolen. provided you have receipt of payment it should be EASY as heck… even if not, they can look up the records, if you invalidate the changes he made (illegally) to the WHOIS info, it’s still yours. PM me if you need help dealing with it (make sure you look up who your registrar is aka network solutions, godaddy etc) - this is what I do for a living among other things.
:tdown: to domain theft, even if J&J is innocent of the other items mentioned, I would (do things that mentioning might get me banned from NYSPEED cuz of the anti-threat rule) them for it 😉
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### Author:  [@JUICEDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JUICEDSS)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/155 "2006-10-03T03:04:21Z")
The resolution should be that Mark gets the site back and JnJ is no longer affiliated with it. That is the only way to make this right and for JnJ to save a little face.
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### Author:  [@dpm90iroc](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dpm90iroc)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/156 "2006-10-03T04:18:29Z")
The site actually belongs to slow84ta & Jeremynr, & mark & jnj helped run it b/c of the time & expertise requiered, especially after the site blew up w/so many members
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### Author:  [@Twizted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Twizted)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/157 "2006-10-03T04:24:00Z")
i vote for [nyfbody.com](http://nyfbody.com) :tup:
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### Author:  [@JUICEDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JUICEDSS)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 5:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/158 "2006-10-03T05:06:03Z")
> [@dpm90iroc](#):
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> The site actually belongs to slow84ta & Jeremynr, & mark & jnj helped run it b/c of the time & expertise requiered, especially after the site blew up w/so many members
As long as it goes back to whomever rightfully owns it.
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### Author:  [@jkucz28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jkucz28)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/159 "2006-10-03T05:17:01Z")
Yea i delt with JJ a few times in the past he’s very 2 faced… Ive delt with paul a number of times… a million times a better person than JJ, Guess someone on the z28 forums should post somthing about this too. JandJackstands 2 car garage…
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/160 "2006-10-03T05:38:03Z")
While I can understand not wanting to waste time by showing up to your own hanging, it looks like these accusations (whether they are true or false) will result in J&J losing a ton of business. If I were him I would have come screaming into this thread with the gloves off.
I would really like to hear his side of things. If the internet has taught me anything, it’s that there are two sides to every story.
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