# would it be worth it, and whats all needed **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [April 18, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735 "2006-04-18T20:47:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dalifts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@dalifts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dalifts)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/1 "2006-04-18T20:47:53Z")
i have a 92civic b18b1. full exhaust, intake header remote coil … Thats all engine wize. Would it be worth upgrading to a gsr. And whats all needed. I want to get near 200whp. If doing a lsvtec would get me there faster. Then ill do it and put new arp bolts in or whatever. Lookin for something under a Grand ---
**Author:** ![Converted2LSX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/converted2lsx/32/5962_2.png) [@Converted2LSX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Converted2LSX)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/2 "2006-04-18T20:54:09Z")
Under a grand would be kinda rough. I say: b16 head/cams/intake CTR Pistons ARP head studs and rod bolts Golden Eagle Conversion Kit what kinda header you got? and just do lil things like deck the block and mill the head to make sure everything is cool. and get a Hondata, Chrome, or Neptune tuning software and you will have fun lil setup going. ---
**Author:** ![dalifts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@dalifts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dalifts)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/3 "2006-04-18T20:55:03Z")
the 421 Dc header. Would that be under a Grand . What u got listed ---
**Author:** ![Converted2LSX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/converted2lsx/32/5962_2.png) [@Converted2LSX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Converted2LSX)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/4 "2006-04-18T21:00:06Z")
> [@dalifts](#): > > the 421 Dc header. Would that be under a Grand . What u got listed b16 will vary in cost. CTR pistons are like 320 brand new with rings Conversion Kit - 250 ARP Heads Studs- 115 ARP Rods Bolts - under 100 New bearings - not to expensive at all what kinda is a pain in the ass is all the lil gasket in shit you got to replace they add up. I forgot to add VTEC waterpump/timing belt. I say your look at around 1500-2000. I mean you can do it for under a 1000 but Id rather have it done right the first time… ---
**Author:** ![dalifts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@dalifts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dalifts)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/5 "2006-04-18T21:01:21Z")
Yea. Id just like to get near 200whp. Gotta have it reliable tho ---
**Author:** ![Converted2LSX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/converted2lsx/32/5962_2.png) [@Converted2LSX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Converted2LSX)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/6 "2006-04-18T21:04:43Z")
> [@dalifts](#): > > Yea. Id just like to get near 200whp. Gotta have it reliable tho then your gonna have to throw in more than 1000. My old setup was at 182 at the wheels and its lasted 3yrs revving 9k everytime I drove it. I dropped alot of money on that motor. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/7 "2006-04-18T21:07:55Z")
also you have to make sure your parts match. you can’t run a 4-2-1 header with 2.25" collector, 3" exhuast, JG IM with some crap warm air intake. the car just won’t make power. it takes a lot to get 200whp all motor in a B series ---
**Author:** ![dalifts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@dalifts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dalifts)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/8 "2006-04-18T21:09:54Z")
yea. Just wanna keep up with people on the street. The Ls sucks ass. Feels like im in neutral as soon as i get to like 4 grand. ---
**Author:** ![Converted2LSX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/converted2lsx/32/5962_2.png) [@Converted2LSX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Converted2LSX)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/9 "2006-04-18T21:10:41Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > also you have to make sure your parts match. you can’t run a 4-2-1 header with 2.25" collector, 3" exhuast, JG IM with some crap warm air intake. the car just won’t make power. > > it takes a lot to get 200whp all motor in a B series unlike those bastard K-series. All you have to do is fart in a K-series and it makes over 200whp. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/10 "2006-04-18T21:10:59Z")
example of the money it will take: [http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=3030](http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=3030) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/11 "2006-04-18T21:11:17Z")
> [@RedLineGSR94](#): > > unlike those bastard K-series. All you have to do is fart in a K-series and it makes over 200whp. pretty much ---
**Author:** ![dalifts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@dalifts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dalifts)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/12 "2006-04-18T21:14:22Z")
wow 192 , not bad at all. I just wanna feel a difference really. This 120whp or whatever isnt cutting it ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/13 "2006-04-18T21:18:19Z")
yeah but did you see the parts needed to hit that along with a stand alone that will cost you almost a grand in itself ---
**Author:** ![dalifts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@dalifts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dalifts)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/14 "2006-04-18T21:20:17Z")
yea, Its just the ls isnt a bad motor. Just not good enough. It cuts out so bad. i was reading on jackson racing. They have dyno proof of 3 cars that once it hits ( i forget ) like 5grand it drops to 80whp ---
**Author:** ![dalifts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@dalifts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dalifts)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/15 "2006-04-18T21:26:00Z")
what if i can go to the bank and get like a 2Grand loan ---
**Author:** ![ZEX350Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/87869e/32.png) [@ZEX350Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZEX350Z)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/16 "2006-04-18T22:21:52Z")
if you can’t afford 2 grand to mod a civic, then you shouldn’t being trying to put that kind of cash in your car. ---
**Author:** ![RickSI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/34f0e0/32.png) [@RickSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RickSI)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2006, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/17 "2006-04-19T04:22:02Z")
Its no worth it to make a loan for parts for u honda.I can see u making a loan to fix ur house but not for ur car.Just piece together a turbo set up.It should run u a litter over 1K.My .02 cents. ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2006, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/18 "2006-04-19T14:23:15Z")
hahaha, 200whp under 1000 all motor, dont think so! balanceing honing alone $230 CTR pistons $230 Arp studs/bolts $170 b16 head $500 (if luckey) cams+springs $800 hmm ---
**Author:** ![Blazin\_Si](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2bfe46/32.png) [@Blazin\_Si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blazin_Si)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2006, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/19 "2006-04-19T15:40:01Z")
My GSR motor just put down 193whp and 129tq. An LS-VTEC with the same mods would probably make a little over 200. [http://honda-tech.com/garage?cmd=viewcar&id=1826](http://honda-tech.com/garage?cmd=viewcar&id=1826) ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2006, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735/20 "2006-04-19T15:45:05Z")
> [@Blazin Si](#): > > My GSR motor just put down 193whp and 129tq. An LS-VTEC with the same mods would probably make a little over 200. > > [http://honda-tech.com/garage?cmd=viewcar&id=1826](http://honda-tech.com/garage?cmd=viewcar&id=1826) the rods and pistons alone cost around a stack! [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-it-be-worth-it-and-whats-all-needed/181735.md?page=2)