# Wow, a good idea for the grain elevators **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 22, 2013, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464 "2013-03-22T05:27:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/1 "2013-03-22T05:27:32Z")
Hey Newman… is one of your climbing buddies involved in this project? [http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/207222/37/Rock-Climbing-Coming-to-Old-Buffalo-Grain-Silo](http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/207222/37/Rock-Climbing-Coming-to-Old-Buffalo-Grain-Silo) > **[Log In or Sign Up to View](https://www.facebook.com/SiloCityRocks?fref=ts)** > > See posts, photos and more on Facebook. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/2 "2013-03-22T05:34:16Z")
I like this idea better than playing videos off the side of it. At least this is useful… ---
**Author:** ![Oasis24-7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c89c15/32.png) [@Oasis24-7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oasis24-7)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/3 "2013-03-22T05:36:46Z")
I work down there a lot and it would be really nice to see it being used for something. ---
**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/4 "2013-03-22T05:40:04Z")
One of the guys involved, Brian Kruszka jumps at our local DZ. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/5 "2013-03-22T05:57:34Z")
That’s really cool. It’s almost as good as my idea for turning the windowless structure designed for water access into a boat accessible strip club complete with mobile barge that can float into Canadian water to go fully nude. I came up with that idea while out on the boat thinking how nice it would be to have some naked chicks. Hire strippers for your own boat ala bachelor parties. Etc. I’m fucking brilliant, but I’ll never run with that idea so I give it to you guys. Anyone with a life situation conducive to starting a strip club may take it and get rich. Just give me free lap dances. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/6 "2013-03-22T05:59:11Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > That’s really cool. It’s almost as good as my idea for turning the windowless structure designed for water access into a boat accessible strip club complete with mobile barge that can float into Canadian water to go fully nude. I came up with that idea while out on the boat thinking how nice it would be to have some naked chicks. Hire strippers for your own boat ala bachelor parties. Etc. > > I’m fucking brilliant, but I’ll never run with that idea so I give it to you guys. Anyone with a life situation conducive to starting a strip club may take it and get rich. Just give me free lap dances. This reminds me of the box truck lap dance mobile at cruise night. Super classy. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/7 "2013-03-22T06:04:15Z")
> [@BOBBYGRV](#): > > This reminds me of the box truck lap dance mobile at cruise night. Super classy. Boats are so much classier than rape cargo vans though. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/8 "2013-03-22T06:21:11Z")
[https://youtu.be/JwdtHhC-kmw](https://youtu.be/JwdtHhC-kmw) People are pledging money too: [http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/grain-elevator-rock-climbing-center](http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/grain-elevator-rock-climbing-center) … now will the preservationists actually allow them to modify the structures for these uses? ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/9 "2013-03-22T06:24:05Z")
Here’s the indiegogo link to raise money: [http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/grain-elevator-rock-climbing-center/x/2677392](http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/grain-elevator-rock-climbing-center/x/2677392) It’s a great idea. I’ve seen it work in other cities but I question what ground work they have done already. Can city bullshit still get in the way? Who owns the silos? Living in Buffalo has left me skeptical of any new/cool ideas becoming successful. Fuck, preservationists may still yell at them for drilling holes into the concrete for the climbing holds. :banghead: EDIT - God dammit, Josh. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/10 "2013-03-22T06:27:07Z")
Word. Chicks love boats. They’ll be willing. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/11 "2013-03-22T06:47:36Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > Fuck, preservationists may still yell at them for drilling holes into the concrete for the climbing holds. :banghead: If it doesn’t fit Tim Tielman’s exact vision for downtown expect a lawsuit. ---
**Author:** ![Event](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/event/32/5443_2.png) [@Event](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Event)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/12 "2013-03-22T06:51:34Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Word. Chicks love boats. They’ll be willing. Because of the implication. ---
**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/13 "2013-03-22T07:00:29Z")
well fuck me. I wrote that idea down at the brainstorming session held at the harbour club like 2yrs ago or whenever that was… ---
**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/14 "2013-03-22T09:24:11Z")
uhh this idea is fully endorsed by the preservationists… I’ve been getting email basts and facebook shares for the last two weeks from everyone in that community asking for donations. (without a single dissenting voice I might add) If these were torn down years ago like all the “progressive” buffalonians wanted there would be no grain elevators to put a climbing center in also the guy who owns silo city is more or less a preservationist. no problems there ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/15 "2013-03-22T09:33:46Z")
I think I suggested this about a decade ago. I know I did for the old grain place in East Aurora when they were repurposing it. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/16 "2013-03-22T11:21:52Z")
> [@Jim1234664](#): > > uhh this idea is fully endorsed by the preservationists… I’ve been getting email basts and facebook shares for the last two weeks from everyone in that community asking for donations. (without a single dissenting voice I might add) > > If these were torn down years ago like all the “progressive” buffalonians wanted there would be no grain elevators to put a climbing center in > > also the guy who owns silo city is more or less a preservationist. no problems there The preservationist comment was more of a joke. My main concern was city BS, but if the actual owner is on board then :tup::tup::tup: Do you know who owns it? ---
**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/17 "2013-03-22T13:44:20Z")
yep, rick smith. same guy who owns rigidized metals on ohio st ---
**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/18 "2013-03-23T12:03:46Z")
noone has beef with adaptive reuse, preservationists just want beautiful or historic structures to not-be-knocked-down-unnecessarily. BOBBYGRV: the projections weren’t a “hey let’s use this for this and this is all we should use it for.” It was a “hey here’s something cool we can do to create an event worth going to in Buffalo, and bring people and attention to this part of the city we’re trying to develop.” When the erie canal harbor development corporation was talking about spending millions to build things that wouldn’t even be to the stage of bringing people or events, Mark Goldman (owner of Hardware, BRKB, former owner of the Calumet on Chippewa) led an initiative with his brother (who developed South Beach in Miami) > **[Tony Goldman, Real Estate Visionary, Dies at 68](https://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/16/nyregion/tony-goldman-real-estate-visionary-dies-at-68.html?_r=0)** > > Mr. Goldman was a real estate visionary who saw himself as a long-term investor in the revitalization of historic neighborhoods. ^read. good article. anyway, they were leading the initiative of “lighter faster cheaper!” You don’t need to spend a billion dollars and wait through a 15 year construction process to start using something uniquely and creatively, bringing people to the area. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/19 "2015-06-04T10:19:51Z")
Bump. After an entire year of no updates, they have finally updated us basically saying “We got your money, we didn’t plan accordingly, go fuck yourself.” > [@Indiegogo Page"](#): > > As you know by now, this project is on hold.The funding raised provided us the capital needed to further explore the feasibility of our selected grain elevator, and after 18 months of structural study and build-out, we reached an impasse with the owner. We were unwilling to sign a lease on the facility – as it needs far more work and construction than originally anticipated and agreed upon. > Thank you all for your support, the project & idea live on – we’re in Buffalo, NY, there is no shortage of empty grain-elevators here, we hope to occupy one someday in the not-to-distant future. > Thank you. > **[Grain Elevator Rock Climbing Center!](https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/grain-elevator-rock-climbing-center/x/2677392#/updates)** > > We are converting an empty grain silo on the Buffalo River into a World-Record setting climbing & outdoor recreation facility! Ascend History! | Check out 'Grain Elevator Rock Climbing Center!' on Indiegogo. I’ll be amazed if they get anything going again. And furthermore if they actually ever honor any of the promises made to donors. ---
**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464/20 "2015-06-04T10:28:12Z")
they should ask ECHDC if they will allow it on the back of the elevator across from canalside. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-a-good-idea-for-the-grain-elevators/229464.md?page=2)