# WOW just WOW **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [September 4, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723 "2008-09-04T12:56:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/41 "2008-09-04T14:57:26Z")
hahahah wow what a clown…if this is who i think it is w/ the Evo. :idiots ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/42 "2008-09-04T14:58:52Z")
> [@Boxersix](#): > > Mitsu puts weak clutches in for a reason…to protect an already weak drivetrain they’re well aware of. When mitsu designed the drive train(mainly the t-case) it was built, from the factory, to handle up to about 400ftlbs without failure. However induce massive driveline shock to the mix and they found the T-cases cracking under stock power levels. To solve this, they put in a clutch with a weaker torque capacity that slipped when necessary to avoid damaging the T-case under extreme acceleration. Far easier and cheaper than scraping ~20,000+ T-cases that were already manufactured and assembled and redesigning them from scratch. > > Mitsu is KNOWN for weak clutches…it’s to be expected in the 10 series now where mitsu is testing the waters with the new driveline. 3K miles is a bit excessive, but that’s a heavy left foot and/or just an abusive driver. weak clutches huh? shit, i know evos running stock clutches with over 400 wtq. i was running about 350 all day for awhile. when launching a car, the shearing force is incredible. over time everything will fail. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/43 "2008-09-04T15:04:01Z")
> [@EJ257FTW](#): > > ive been in daves position… and if he WANTED to dave could get that clutch warrantied. ive fought with GM to warranty parts that were well beyond the scope of anything that should even be warrantied for customer service and in the interest of keeping a customer happy. it comes down to the discretion of the dealership and if they want to fuck the owner in the ass or not. fact of the matter is that the owner is taking a 12 incher between the cheeks. listen, none of us “know” what happened to the clutch, and we prob wont ever know unless he takes them to court and has an investigator dig deep to find the problem. thats not my issue. here u are blaming it all on mitsu saying this and that, when in fact u dont know shit. stop flexing those keyboard muscles because no one cares that u dont like mitsu and think subaru’s are superior. /rant /thread ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/44 "2008-09-04T15:11:42Z")
i never ONCE said subaru is superior… so why dont you hold your fucking horses here pal… first off, mitsubishi has a well documented history of weak ass clutches secondly 3000 miles is a fucking joke no matter what “abuse” the car has seen. thirdly its at the dealerships discretion and as you know the dealership is representing mitsubishi motors usa… thus by the dealer declining to warranty it, its effectively mitsu declining to help. take a look at what that does down the line… it pisses off a customer whos brand new 40k$ car is fucked before its first oil change. the dealership declines warranty repair which MAY in turn cost mitsubishi another VEHICLE sale down the line rather than just the cost of a 400$ clutch… so in turn it might still COST mitsu 40k for a 400$ part… think about it like that… customer satisfaction bud… im not saying this should be done EVERY time someone has a problem with their car… but with a car THAT new with THAT few miles… that clutch gets warrantied hands down if im the writer/service manager… ive told gm AND chrysler reps to fuck themselves and to warranty something that they otherwise wouldnt… and if the manufacturer absolutely would not cover it i would put it on the dealership as a GOODWILL repair in interest of customer satisfaction. ---
**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SDP)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/45 "2008-09-04T15:11:48Z")
They can’t warranty that type of thing unless its obvious part failure and not abuse. Most anybody driving retarded can ruin an oem clutch in no time, especially on an AWD car. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/46 "2008-09-04T15:19:02Z")
> [@EJ257FTW](#): > > i never ONCE said subaru is superior… so why dont you hold your fucking horses here pal… > > first off, mitsubishi has a well documented history of weak ass clutches > secondly 3000 miles is a fucking joke no matter what “abuse” the car has seen. > thirdly its at the dealerships discretion and as you know the dealership is representing mitsubishi motors usa… thus by the dealer declining to warranty it, its effectively mitsu declining to help. > > take a look at what that does down the line… it pisses off a customer whos brand new 40k$ car is fucked before its first oil change. the dealership declines warranty repair which MAY in turn cost mitsubishi another VEHICLE sale down the line rather than just the cost of a 400$ clutch… so in turn it might still COST mitsu 40k for a 400$ part… think about it like that… customer satisfaction bud… im not saying this should be done EVERY time someone has a problem with their car… but with a car THAT new with THAT few miles… that clutch gets warrantied hands down if im the writer/service manager… ive told gm AND chrysler reps to fuck themselves and to warranty something that they otherwise wouldnt… and if the manufacturer absolutely would not cover it i would put it on the dealership as a GOODWILL repair in interest of customer satisfaction. u just dont get it do u? clutches can be smoked within minutes let alone 3000 miles. we dont know what happened here, and im sure if he did beat the shit out of the car he would not own up to it. so i will hold my horse, while u beat ur dead one on this topic because that pea size thing in your skull ur calling a brain just cant comprehend what we are all telling u. ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/47 "2008-09-04T15:25:37Z")
you can insult my intelligence until you are blue in the face… but the FACT of the matter is IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER what conditions the clutch saw. with a car that costs that much and mitsubishi usa AND mangino mitsubishi telling the customer to go fuck himself, i HIGHLY doubt he will be a repeat customer and its COSTING mitsu more then a $400 clutch… its costing them future sales… hence why they needed dodges help bailing them out over the past few years. because their policies are setting them up to fail. ive been on the other side of the desk. you have not. YOU are the one that doesnt know what you’re talking about here PAL… so this time its your turn to shut the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/48 "2008-09-04T15:27:37Z")
oh, deadbeatrec, i think i saw you taking out the trash or something, out towards nisky on rt7 the other day? the guy looked just like you ---
**Author:** ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/49 "2008-09-04T15:32:11Z")
> [@EJ257FTW](#): > > you can insult my intelligence until you are blue in the face… but the FACT of the matter is IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER what conditions the clutch saw. with a car that costs that much and mitsubishi usa AND mangino mitsubishi telling the customer to go fuck himself, i HIGHLY doubt he will be a repeat customer and its COSTING mitsu more then a $400 clutch… its costing them future sales… hence why they needed dodges help bailing them out over the past few years. because their policies are setting them up to fail. > > ive been on the other side of the desk. you have not. YOU are the one that doesnt know what you’re talking about here PAL… so this time its your turn to shut the fuck up. Not according to Mitsu, and it is their warrenty, their product. If they don’t want to replace a clutch because they think it was abused they have every right to do that. It says so in the warrenty, they would have to have an IQ similar to the avg IQ of this forum to not include that. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/50 "2008-09-04T15:32:53Z")
> [@EJ257FTW](#): > > you can insult my intelligence until you are blue in the face… but the FACT of the matter is IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER what conditions the clutch saw. with a car that costs that much and mitsubishi usa AND mangino mitsubishi telling the customer to go fuck himself, i HIGHLY doubt he will be a repeat customer and its COSTING mitsu more then a $400 clutch… its costing them future sales… hence why they needed dodges help bailing them out over the past few years. because their policies are setting them up to fail. > > ive been on the other side of the desk. you have not. YOU are the one that doesnt know what you’re talking about here PAL… so this time its your turn to shut the fuck up. would it be really childish to say MAKE ME? :lol and no i live in colonie, so wasnt me ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/51 "2008-09-04T15:34:50Z")
yes, they have the right to say so… but im saying in the interest of good business and good customer relations, it should be replaced free of charge… not my call to say what happens… but i can give my opinion on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![big\_red](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_red/32/6328_2.png) [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/52 "2008-09-04T15:36:35Z")
> [@SDP](#): > > They can’t warranty that type of thing unless its obvious part failure and not abuse. > > Most anybody driving retarded can ruin an oem clutch in no time, especially on an AWD car. exactly, and travis idk where you got the $400 evo clutch install but id like to go there, your looking a a BIT more than that. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/53 "2008-09-04T15:37:28Z")
> [@EJ257FTW](#): > > yes, they have the right to say so… but im saying in the interest of good business and good customer relations, it should be replaced free of charge… not my call to say what happens… but i can give my opinion on the subject. yea and it smells worse than your Halitosis. ---
**Author:** ![big\_red](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_red/32/6328_2.png) [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/54 "2008-09-04T15:41:41Z")
> [@EJ257FTW](#): > > yes, they have the right to say so… but im saying in the interest of good business and good customer relations, it should be replaced free of charge… not my call to say what happens… but i can give my opinion on the subject. the customer didn’t even ask if it was a warranty-able item, as soon as I told him there was no actual failure and that the clutch had in fact worn out, he said no problem, let me know when its done. He understood that it wasnt going to be replaced free of charge. Everyone esp you should know how easy it is to fry a clutch in an AWD turbo car. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/55 "2008-09-04T15:44:01Z")
> [@EJ257FTW](#): > > 12,000 mile adjustment period… all i have to say… if mitsubishi cant produce a car with a clutch that holds more than 3000 miles then they should re-think their part selection… or just keep denying honest warranty claims and see if dodge will bail them out AGAIN. actually mitsu saved dodge,s ass ;D…see that,s why im glad im a tech so i can see what caused the failure in the first place if ya know what to look for all ya can say abuse or mech but if ya dont see it no one know,s and when i worked for mitsu i never warrentied one clutch … ---
**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/56 "2008-09-04T15:46:57Z")
Another thread ruined from travis’s intelect ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/57 "2008-09-04T15:48:20Z")
what,s even better is that all car manufacture,s have some sort of datalogging on the comp for problems like this …i/e if a cust walks in and says my motor fried we can look at the data and see what went on to cause it ---
**Author:** ![big\_red](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_red/32/6328_2.png) [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/58 "2008-09-04T15:49:08Z")
> [@Hooked on 240](#): > > Another thread ruined from travis’s intelect either way I think its hilarious this kid fried his clutch, before he was due for his first oil change hahaha ---
**Author:** ![mcflurry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mcflurry/32/6468_2.png) [@mcflurry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mcflurry)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/59 "2008-09-04T15:49:58Z")
gotta love ppl that cant drive ---
**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723/60 "2008-09-04T15:51:04Z")
> [@BIG RED](#): > > either way I think its hilarious this kid fried his clutch, before he was due for his first oil change hahaha Ya, that is impressive. i dont think i could do that if i tried [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-just-wow/238723.md?page=4)