# WTB: Really wide wheels(baller)

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**Created:** [July 17, 2006, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032 "2006-07-17T21:10:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![DirrtyDevo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dirrtydevo/32/5547_2.png) [@DirrtyDevo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DirrtyDevo)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/1 "2006-07-17T21:10:02Z")

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So im saving to be a baller vs trying to kill myself and everyone around me with flipped 2pc wheels. Its a 50mm widebody fastback. looking for 9-11" wide wheel…Any wider and the offsets going to be too critical otherwise they will rub either my fender or suspension.

From my caculations with a 11" wide wheel the offset would have to be +20 but +25 to +30 to be safe. I cant roll my fiberglass fenders id have to cut them and re enforce the structure somehow :? that i can figure out later.

With a 10" wide wheel I may be able to get away with as low as a neutral offset(+0) but to be safe +5 to +10…i dont mind using a smaller spacer to make it perfect vs accidently getting a wheel that wont fit.

And for a 9" wide wheel the offset would need to be -30 but to be safe -25 to -20

Ive had little luck with performance places finding wheels and no luck whatso ever at cheap thrills wheels and tire:cry: I also havnt figured out how to make sure the offsets not going to mess around with my coils. Its my Bday in a week so i may be able to afford the wheels soon. i preffere 17s…and these offsets are for the rear only so im looking for a pair of wheels…i dont want 11" fronts…9" at most…and if i have to ill mold bings flares onto the fronts. 4lug or 5lug…currently im 4lug but if i must ill switch over to 5lug. Im so confused in my own words…ill leave it at that please help?

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**Author:** ![blu2fourty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@blu2fourty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blu2fourty)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/2 "2006-07-17T21:50:18Z")

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i have a pair of 5 lug hubs and 15x7 rims near 0 offset. pm if your intrested

jon

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**Author:** ![DirrtyDevo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dirrtydevo/32/5547_2.png) [@DirrtyDevo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DirrtyDevo)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/3 "2006-08-21T00:29:40Z")

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Bump.

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**Author:** ![S13GG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13gg/32/5506_2.png) [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/4 "2006-08-21T06:55:37Z")

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![http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g116/dvstr1/IMG_0309.jpg](http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g116/dvstr1/IMG_0309.jpg)

![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/Jedi_Car_Fan/Other/100_0348.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/Jedi_Car_Fan/Other/100_0348.jpg)

![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/Jedi_Car_Fan/Other/100_0347.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/Jedi_Car_Fan/Other/100_0347.jpg)

![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/Jedi_Car_Fan/Other/100_0346.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/Jedi_Car_Fan/Other/100_0346.jpg)

PM me if you want to come down and see just how these fit/look, bring tuner lugs as I have no spares…

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**Author:** ![robbbby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@robbbby](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/robbbby)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/5 "2006-08-21T13:03:16Z")

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I think you have your offset calculations reversed.

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**Author:** ![DirrtyDevo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dirrtydevo/32/5547_2.png) [@DirrtyDevo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DirrtyDevo)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/6 "2006-08-21T13:16:50Z")

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1" is 25.4mm Soo if a 17x9 +20mm wheels sits flush on stock 1/4 panel and i have a 50mm wide body(basicly 2") an 11" wheel should sit flush with a 20mm offset but 25+ to 30+ to be safe because i cant roll my fenders(their fiberglass…i can only cut the inner lip). For the 9" wheel with the offset being crazy low would mean the mounting surface or part that rests on my hub would be away from the outside edge of the wheel. This would be a big dish kind of wheel. I still dont see where i went wrong but correct me if you think my caculations are off.

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**Author:** ![robbbby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@robbbby](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/robbbby)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/7 "2006-08-21T16:07:48Z")

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I always thought negative offset pushed the wheels out and further away from the vehicle because the hub mounting point is so far back in the wheel and high offsets tuck the wheel more under the fender because the mounting point is close to the outside of the wheel. I just can’t imagine fitting 11" wheels with a +30, they would hit your suspension. You’d need like a 0 or negative offset to bring them out. I don’t know, I may be totally wrong on this one

I have some 16x7.5 +32 wheels with 225 tires and they rub my suspension in the front without spacers and are very close to doing the same in the rear.

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**Author:** ![cgguy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cgguy/32/5508_2.png) [@cgguy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cgguy)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/8 "2006-08-21T16:28:04Z")

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robbby is correct. 17x11 +30 would rub your suspension.

Given that 17x9 +20 is “flush” as you call it you would want 17x11 -5 to push the wheel out 50mm without changing the inner clearance.

Here check this out.  
[http://marksink.com/tire\_wheel\_offset/offset.html](http://marksink.com/tire_wheel_offset/offset.html)

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**Author:** ![Lith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/fbc32d/32.png) [@Lith](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lith)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/9 "2006-08-21T16:59:59Z")

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17x11, ET -5… LOL!

good luck

but I would like to see that on a car though 🙂

edit: The only thing close to that wheel I found were these:  
[http://www.takumiproject.com/PDT/c0602034.htm](http://www.takumiproject.com/PDT/c0602034.htm)

16x9 -13 and 16x9.5 -19

You still need a nice 20mm spacer though…

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**Author:** ![DirrtyDevo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dirrtydevo/32/5547_2.png) [@DirrtyDevo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DirrtyDevo)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/10 "2006-08-21T18:36:45Z")

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Shitty…i see where i went wrong…i just added the 2" for the 11" wide wheel to the outer portion of the rim instead of adding 1/2 to one side 1/2 to the other…ill re-caculate later…

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**Author:** ![TM1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tm1/32/5517_2.png) [@TM1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TM1)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/11 "2006-08-22T04:47:41Z")

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Dude… build your motor so your wheel size will actually be acceptable 😑

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**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/12 "2006-08-22T06:11:23Z")

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^^ True but he’ll need like 400whp 😃

Devin with a config like you’re you are really going to need to custom order wheels. It’s expensive as hell because not only do you need to get them custom made which is a bit more (not a lot though) you’ll need to order from a company that will do it. Like Work 🙂

Call Work, ask them for the exact sizes you want and a few weeks later you’ll have them.

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**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/13 "2006-08-22T06:16:42Z")

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Devin, talk to me at the meet tomorrow and I’ll see what I can do for you.

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**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/14 "2006-08-22T08:05:45Z")

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> [@Jammin1911](#):
>
> ^^ True but he’ll need like 400whp 😃
> 
> Devin with a config like you’re you are really going to need to custom order wheels. It’s expensive as hell because not only do you need to get them custom made which is a bit more (not a lot though) you’ll need to order from a company that will do it. Like Work 🙂
> 
> Call Work, ask them for the exact sizes you want and a few weeks later you’ll have them.

Are you sure about the little more? Because from my understanding of how forging works, you’re going to need a new set of dies. As far as I know, companies like work use flashless forging to make their wheels to some very close tolerances. In order to make a larger or lower offset wheel, you would either need a whole new set of dies, or put in more metal, do it as regular forging, with flash, then machine off the excess. Either way, if they have to do a lot of machining, it kills the point of forging the wheel, since it loses the strength benefits like having the metal inside line up (dunno how to explain this… hahaha) and you don’t get the work hardening that you get from forging.  
Sorry if it’s not detailed enough, but it’s been awhile since I took manufacturing, so remembering is a total whore.

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**Author:** ![S13GG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13gg/32/5506_2.png) [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/15 "2006-08-22T08:21:05Z")

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> [@Solarian](#):
>
> [quote=Jammin1911]^^ True but he’ll need like 400whp 😃
> 
> Devin with a config like you’re you are really going to need to custom order wheels. It’s expensive as hell because not only do you need to get them custom made which is a bit more (not a lot though) you’ll need to order from a company that will do it. Like Work 🙂
> 
> Call Work, ask them for the exact sizes you want and a few weeks later you’ll have them.

Are you sure about the little more? Because from my understanding of how forging works, you’re going to need a new set of dies. As far as I know, companies like work use flashless forging to make their wheels to some very close tolerances. In order to make a larger or lower offset wheel, you would either need a whole new set of dies, or put in more metal, do it as regular forging, with flash, then machine off the excess. Either way, if they have to do a lot of machining, it kills the point of forging the wheel, since it loses the strength benefits like having the metal inside line up (dunno how to explain this… hahaha) and you don’t get the work hardening that you get from forging.  
Sorry if it’s not detailed enough, but it’s been awhile since I took manufacturing, so remembering is a total whore.[/quote]

are you thinking of 1 piece wheels,

because he may have been thinkin’ of 2/3 piece wheels…

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**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/16 "2006-08-23T06:59:22Z")

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If you want to be baller you better be prepaired to shell out some scrilla.

> **[FS:Work Miesters,long champ,zero racing - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX...](http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=115519)**
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> Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

> **[Custom DPE 18x9 +0 and 18x10 +0 wheels for sale - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan...](http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=115945)**
>
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**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/17 "2006-08-23T08:18:41Z")

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> [@S13GG](#):
>
> [quote=Solarian][quote=Jammin1911]^^ True but he’ll need like 400whp 😃
> 
> Devin with a config like you’re you are really going to need to custom order wheels. It’s expensive as hell because not only do you need to get them custom made which is a bit more (not a lot though) you’ll need to order from a company that will do it. Like Work 🙂
> 
> Call Work, ask them for the exact sizes you want and a few weeks later you’ll have them.

Are you sure about the little more? Because from my understanding of how forging works, you’re going to need a new set of dies. As far as I know, companies like work use flashless forging to make their wheels to some very close tolerances. In order to make a larger or lower offset wheel, you would either need a whole new set of dies, or put in more metal, do it as regular forging, with flash, then machine off the excess. Either way, if they have to do a lot of machining, it kills the point of forging the wheel, since it loses the strength benefits like having the metal inside line up (dunno how to explain this… hahaha) and you don’t get the work hardening that you get from forging.  
Sorry if it’s not detailed enough, but it’s been awhile since I took manufacturing, so remembering is a total whore.[/quote]

are you thinking of 1 piece wheels,

because he may have been thinkin’ of 2/3 piece wheels…[/quote]

Yea… I don’t know a crapload about it but the example I do have experience with is a 2 piece wheel… maybe I should have mentioned that.

Thinking about it for a sec I’m sure you are correct in the case of a forged 1 piece wheel…

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**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/18 "2006-08-23T08:21:09Z")

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> [@s14\_2Nv](#):
>
> If you want to be baller you better be prepaired to shell out some scrilla.
> 
> [http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=115519](http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=115519)
> 
> [http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=115945](http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=115945)

those work meisters are baller :x

and thats is silly expensive for 15" wheels haha

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**Author:** ![Axlerod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8edcca/32.png) [@Axlerod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Axlerod)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/19 "2006-08-23T10:18:24Z")

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Here you go, 15x10 -46, and probably under $200 per wheel 😉

![http://www.americaneaglewheel.com/images/categories/028.jpg](http://www.americaneaglewheel.com/images/categories/028.jpg)

[http://www.aewheel.com/eagle\_alloy\_wheels.cfm?id=19](http://www.aewheel.com/eagle_alloy_wheels.cfm?id=19)

Really though, the only 9-11" wheels in 17 or 18 you’ll have to get from Japan, or pay a LOT of money (as above) to get them brand new.

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**Author:** ![Axlerod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8edcca/32.png) [@Axlerod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Axlerod)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-really-wide-wheels-baller/98032/20 "2006-08-23T13:52:05Z")

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Hey dude, I just saw these on GTRC. They would look awesome on a pimp widebody 😉

[http://216.120.241.76/~gtrcana/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9130](http://216.120.241.76/~gtrcana/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9130)

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