# WTB Turbo **URL:** \ **Category:** Classifieds\ **Created:** [December 30, 2009, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437 "2009-12-30T12:22:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![twomodified4u](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/twomodified4u/32/6568_2.png) [@twomodified4u](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/twomodified4u)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/81 "2010-01-01T11:03:36Z")
> [@04/22/2007 ECC-N WNY Event 1 Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/129): > > well i know im just a noob and all, but i see a lot more precisions and borg warners being used in the racing world than gt 30xx’s. another concern i have which you guys apparently dont is just plain paying for something you dont need. stock motors for daily drivers dont need gt’s, but if you want to go spend the money, i can help you with that, as i really like the sushi at koto if you want to get me some. > > i will continue this via pm with anyone who wants to, just dont wanna clog up the thread here . bump laduke, someone get your friend a turbo, only a few months left till spring! Borg V GT garrett [Turbo shootout results: BW S256 vs GT3076R - Honda-Tech - Honda Forum Discussion](http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2220363&highlight=synapse+borg+garrett) ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/82 "2010-01-01T11:52:18Z")
> [@tdi\_logik"](#): > > once again, something that isn’t true. > > what about narrowband ecu cars? no pete, how is a datalogging cable going to give him acurate info about hsi AFR’s without a WB02? Narrowbands are a general idea but would you trust your car with just a narrowband if it was modified way out of its realm when it came from the factory? If his car was a stock turbo car to begin with id say its not as big of a deal becayse the ecu could at least compensate somewhat… but ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/83 "2010-01-01T12:02:59Z")
A datalogging cable wouldn’t tell you anything about A/F ratios on a narrowband ECU car. He needs a gauge for the WB02. ---
**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/84 "2010-01-01T12:04:50Z")
> [@Anyone know a good upholstery shop?? ezfd cant spell](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-know-a-good-upholstery-shop-ezfd-cant-spell/27911/7): > > no pete, how is a datalogging cable going to give him acurate info about hsi AFR’s without a WB02? > > Narrowbands are a general idea but would you trust your car with just a narrowband if it was modified way out of its realm when it came from the factory? > > If his car was a stock turbo car to begin with id say its not as big of a deal becayse the ecu could at least compensate somewhat… but this is true. Even stock the ecu doesn’t recognize O2 sensors for WOT fuel calibration. The signal is too narrow and only useful for idle and part throttle low load AFR monitoring. Pete… you should know this! You got spoiled with your Audi/VW with WBO2 from the factory. ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/85 "2010-01-01T12:06:10Z")
> [@Anyone know a good upholstery shop?? ezfd cant spell](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-know-a-good-upholstery-shop-ezfd-cant-spell/27911/7): > > no pete, how is a datalogging cable going to give him acurate info about hsi AFR’s without a WB02? > > Narrowbands are a general idea but would you trust your car with just a narrowband if it was modified way out of its realm when it came from the factory? > > If his car was a stock turbo car to begin with id say its not as big of a deal becayse the ecu could at least compensate somewhat… but you said it won’t tell you shit. which indeed it will. timing pull, knock count, IAT’s, etc, and etc. i’m no tuner by any means but to say that if he he doesn’t have an AF guage a data logging cable is useless? come on now. ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/86 "2010-01-01T12:07:18Z")
> [@Official "remove Kcuv's Sig" thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-remove-kcuvs-sig-thread/27899/149): > > You got spoiled with your Audi/VW with WBO2 from the factory. my car was a narrowband car! bam! 01 and newer was wideband. i had the dumper ecu:( ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/87 "2010-01-01T12:07:58Z")
Stupid argument. The point is, LaDuke’s gonna have the fastest shit around and narrowband O2s don’t communicate A/F ratios. ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/88 "2010-01-01T12:12:30Z")
laduke just makes things 3 times as hard as it should be. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/89 "2010-01-01T12:13:59Z")
Or 3 times faster than it should be ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/90 "2010-01-01T12:14:25Z")
> [@NYspeed scavenger hunt](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-scavenger-hunt/27900/11): > > you said it won’t tell you shit. which indeed it will. timing pull, knock count, IAT’s, etc, and etc. > > i’m no tuner by any means but to say that if he he doesn’t have an AF guage a data logging cable is useless? come on now. i was refering to afr’s pete ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/91 "2010-01-01T12:14:26Z")
or 3 times more rough than it should be ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/92 "2010-01-01T12:15:33Z")
> [@NYspeed scavenger hunt](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-scavenger-hunt/27900/13): > > i was refering to afr’s pete well then i misunderstood what you were trying to say, but i’m followin it now :ponder ---
**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/93 "2010-01-01T13:33:03Z")
If his Civic is anything like his Jetta was I will still run better times in the same car stock with the better driver mod… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![DUKE\_LADUKE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duke_laduke/32/6317_2.png) [@DUKE\_LADUKE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DUKE_LADUKE)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/94 "2010-01-01T14:44:59Z")
Mod trash this thread. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_hybrdthry91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_hybrdthry91/32/6315_2.png) [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/95 "2010-01-01T18:12:56Z")
> [@04/22/2007 ECC-N WNY Event 1 Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/129): > > well i know im just a noob and all, but i see a lot more precisions and borg warners being used in the racing world than gt 30xx’s. another concern i have which you guys apparently dont is just plain paying for something you dont need. stock motors for daily drivers dont need gt’s, but if you want to go spend the money, i can help you with that, as i really like the sushi at koto if you want to get me some. > > i will continue this via pm with anyone who wants to, just dont wanna clog up the thread here . bump laduke, someone get your friend a turbo, only a few months left till spring! im not sure i understand your logic, the GT series turbos arent just meant to make huge power, they are meant to be more responsive, spool up faster, and recover faster during shifts, why would you not want that in a daily driver. huge power drag cars spool time isnt as huge of a factor as they are always in the upper rpm powerband, so in reality it is most useful on daily drivers. the GT30xx’s are used all the time in road race applications, of course not on the drag strip, they are fairly small compared to most of the size limitations of turbo classes. ---
**Author:** ![underboosted](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/underboosted/32/6424_2.png) [@underboosted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/underboosted)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/96 "2010-01-01T18:36:28Z")
Go mike go! Don’t finish this via PM. ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/97 "2010-01-01T20:08:52Z")
your all fucking retarded. Not only did this spin out of controll off in left field with like 3 completely unrelated arguments, they already purchased a replacement so this thread should be locked. Hasnt it been discussed that the classified section is the only place where mods should and can delete? Why didnt it happen here? Everyone has to sound like they know everything about cars, money situation, friends situations, engine parts and what is the best thing to buy for everyone elses rides. WTF, who cares. If he or his friend wanted to put a fucking tractor trailer turbo on his car he can. This should have been a simple, “I have what your looking for here is my reply” or “I know where you can find one…” and if you dont have any usefull information like I stated, there isnt a reason to lick “POST RELPY” ---
**Author:** ![DUKE\_LADUKE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duke_laduke/32/6317_2.png) [@DUKE\_LADUKE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DUKE_LADUKE)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/98 "2010-01-01T20:24:40Z")
> [@Motorcycle Accident](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motorcycle-accident/27921/5): > > your all fucking retarded. Not only did this spin out of controll off in left field with like 3 completely unrelated arguments, they already purchased a replacement so this thread should be locked. > > Hasnt it been discussed that the classified section is the only place where mods should and can delete? Why didnt it happen here? > > Everyone has to sound like they know everything about cars, money situation, friends situations, engine parts and what is the best thing to buy for everyone elses rides. WTF, who cares. If he or his friend wanted to put a fucking tractor trailer turbo on his car he can. > > This should have been a simple, “I have what your looking for here is my reply” or “I know where you can find one…” and if you dont have any usefull information like I stated, there isnt a reason to lick “POST RELPY” Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![GermanPSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/germanpsi/32/6353_2.png) [@GermanPSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GermanPSI)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437/99 "2010-01-01T22:53:48Z")
> [@anyone with carb experience? (vw related)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-with-carb-experience-vw-related/27872/18): > > Thank you! No problem brah [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-turbo/249437.md?page=4)