# wtf?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [April 12, 2007, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211 "2007-04-12T17:02:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![neonracer01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc348/32.png) [@neonracer01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonracer01)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/1 "2007-04-12T17:02:55Z")

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more trouble for me. i put my 6.6 in the car hooked everything up tried to turn over the engine and it did but very tight. even with the plugs out it seems tight. if i put the plugs in it turns over till it build compression and stop and i can hear the compression leaking off then it will turn over and do the same again wtf? everything is stock except the cam and its only an rv cam. what could it be?

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**Author:** ![tom\_vito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tom_vito/32/6000_2.png) [@tom\_vito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tom_vito)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/2 "2007-04-12T17:14:00Z")

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Did you get that battery to hold a good charge?

Last night it really seemed like that was the problem…

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**Author:** ![neonracer01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc348/32.png) [@neonracer01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonracer01)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/3 "2007-04-12T17:18:16Z")

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it charged last night and i turn the car over 3 times and same problem.

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**Author:** ![eurodad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eurodad/32/5988_2.png) [@eurodad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eurodad)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/4 "2007-04-12T17:50:01Z")

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but was the battery good? maybe it has a dead cell.

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**Author:** ![tom\_vito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tom_vito/32/6000_2.png) [@tom\_vito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tom_vito)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/5 "2007-04-12T17:59:06Z")

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> [@Getting married tomorrow...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-married-tomorrow/29435/26):
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> but was the battery good? maybe it has a dead cell.

X2

What time are you getting done work tommorow? if it’s close to 3, I can toss the battery load tester in the truck and stop by and check it for you. Give me a call…

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/6 "2007-04-12T18:07:15Z")

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ground

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**Author:** ![neonracer01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc348/32.png) [@neonracer01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonracer01)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/7 "2007-04-12T18:39:53Z")

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the battery is shot now . i heard it sizzling when the charger was on it. im sure having it rough for my first engine build.

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**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/8 "2007-04-13T03:11:04Z")

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> [@Possibly The Last SABRES BASH FOR 07! 5.19.07 -NooN](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/possibly-the-last-sabres-bash-for-07-5-19-07-noon/29439/7):
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> the battery is shot now . i heard it sizzling when the charger was on it. im sure having it rough for my first engine build.

u think it was gonna be easy ? …lol

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**Author:** ![tom\_vito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tom_vito/32/6000_2.png) [@tom\_vito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tom_vito)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/9 "2007-04-13T05:47:07Z")

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> [@Getting married tomorrow...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-married-tomorrow/29435/34):
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> u think it was gonna be easy ? …lol

X2

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**Author:** ![Jeff95TA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff95ta/32/5935_2.png) [@Jeff95TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff95TA)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/10 "2007-04-13T07:50:53Z")

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I hear ya. When I reconnected all my wiring I kept welding the terminal to the battery. Checked everything 10 times. The freakin’ battery had reversed polarity. Wasted a day and a half!

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**Author:** ![neonracer01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc348/32.png) [@neonracer01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonracer01)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/11 "2007-04-13T10:50:12Z")

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> [@Getting married tomorrow...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-married-tomorrow/29435/34):
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> u think it was gonna be easy ? …lol

easier than it has been.

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**Author:** ![neonracer01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc348/32.png) [@neonracer01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonracer01)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/12 "2007-04-13T15:01:09Z")

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OK,

Heres the deal. Got a new battery, cleaned and remade the ground connections, tested the starter, rechecked the valve settings, and this damn thing still doesn’t make more than a half of a revolution per hit of the key. The starteer is torqueing on it so har, that it is moving the bolts. But the SOB still wont turn over.

Time to haul it back out??

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**Author:** ![imported\_Sleeper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sleeper/32/5939_2.png) [@imported\_Sleeper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Sleeper)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/13 "2007-04-13T15:07:48Z")

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> [@WTB: Ladies golf club set](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-ladies-golf-club-set/29460/2):
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> OK,
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> Heres the deal. Got a new battery, cleaned and remade the ground connections, tested the starter, rechecked the valve settings, and this damn thing still doesn’t make more than a half of a revolution per hit of the key. The starteer is torqueing on it so har, that it is moving the bolts. But the SOB still wont turn over.
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> Time to haul it back out??

What kind of vehicle? Could it be your CPS? Did u do the cam install correctly?

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**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/14 "2007-04-13T15:09:18Z")

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somethign with the pistons/rings itself??

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**Author:** ![yelo69](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yelo69/32/6023_2.png) [@yelo69](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yelo69)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/15 "2007-04-13T15:22:56Z")

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> [@WTB: Ladies golf club set](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-ladies-golf-club-set/29460/2):
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> OK,
> 
> Heres the deal. Got a new battery, cleaned and remade the ground connections, tested the starter, rechecked the valve settings, and this damn thing still doesn’t make more than a half of a revolution per hit of the key. The starteer is torqueing on it so har, that it is moving the bolts. But the SOB still wont turn over.
> 
> Time to haul it back out??

When you put the engine together, you said [in a different thread] that the engine didn’t turn over real smooth…My guess is your problem is still with the rods or bearings…This is the engine with the scat crank, correct?

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**Author:** ![imported\_Sleeper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sleeper/32/5939_2.png) [@imported\_Sleeper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Sleeper)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/16 "2007-04-13T15:25:22Z")

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> [@Getting married tomorrow...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-married-tomorrow/29435/50):
>
> When you put the engine together, you said [in a different thread] that the engine didn’t turn over real smooth…My guess is your problem is still with the rods or bearings…This is the engine with the scat crank, correct?

Wouldn’t be a rod issue i would think, i would go with cam, bearings or CPS (if applicable)

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**Author:** ![yelo69](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yelo69/32/6023_2.png) [@yelo69](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yelo69)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/17 "2007-04-13T15:34:27Z")

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> [@Big news, everyone.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-news-everyone/29458/28):
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> Wouldn’t be a rod issue i would think, i would go with cam, bearings or CPS (if applicable)

If this is the engine I think it is, he had some assembly problems that may not have been resolved…Look in the general posts on the “crank help needed asap” thread, post #33.

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**Author:** ![neonracer01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc348/32.png) [@neonracer01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonracer01)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/18 "2007-04-13T15:45:41Z")

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> [@WTB: Ladies golf club set](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-ladies-golf-club-set/29460/3):
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> somethign with the pistons/rings itself??

Maybe, not really sure. What with the pistons/rings would cause this?

> [@EVO guys under 25 insurance ?s](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-guys-under-25-insurance-s/29465/8):
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> What kind of vehicle? Could it be your CPS? Did u do the cam install correctly?

3rd gen camaro, running carb, and hei dist. no CPS involved.

> [@Getting married tomorrow...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-married-tomorrow/29435/50):
>
> When you put the engine together, you said [in a different thread] that the engine didn’t turn over real smooth…My guess is your problem is still with the rods or bearings…This is the engine with the scat crank, correct?

After installing the cam, heads, ect, it still turned rather free, not as free as my old worn out 305, but freer then when I had the rod problem.

Anyone in the market for a 400 that is hard to turn over? Everything is new except for the block.

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**Author:** ![eurodad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eurodad/32/5988_2.png) [@eurodad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eurodad)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/19 "2007-04-13T15:49:43Z")

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aren’t you supposed to measure the amount of force(inlbs or ftlbs i forget) needed to pull the piston and rings through the bore? and then there is another for the amount it takes to spin the rotating assembly. i’m guessing theres still a fitment issue with the rods or bearings.

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**Author:** ![yelo69](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yelo69/32/6023_2.png) [@yelo69](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yelo69)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf/189211/20 "2007-04-13T15:52:58Z")

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> [@Why Some Much Hate for a Plain Family Car???](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-some-much-hate-for-a-plain-family-car/29304/9):
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> Maybe, not really sure. What with the pistons/rings would cause this?
> 
> 3rd gen camaro, running carb, and hei dist. no CPS involved.
> 
> After installing the cam, heads, ect, it still turned rather free, not as free as my old worn out 305, but freer then when I had the rod problem.
> 
> Anyone in the market for a 400 that is hard to turn over? Everything is new except for the block.

Pull the plugs and put a socket on the crank and try and turn it over by hand…See how tight it feels…don’t snap the bolt!!! Just go 1 step at a time.

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