# Xbox 360 is a piece of s\*\*t **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 30, 2007, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800 "2007-03-30T07:43:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/21 "2007-03-30T13:14:26Z")
So far in my family: 1 xBox 360 last week 2 PS2s (All died from the standard disc read error about one year apart, the 3rd one seems to be good after two.) It’s more luck of the draw in a lot of cases. To put it in easily understandable car terms. Some will own a Toyota and have constant issues, and some can own a DSM with little issues. ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/22 "2007-03-30T13:18:10Z")
[quote=“FuzzyFish,post:21,topic:26800"”] 2 PS2s (All died from the standard disc read error about one year apart, [/quote] That can be fixed easily ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/23 "2007-03-30T13:35:35Z")
I did the standard clean it out, clean lens, adjust laser power, and adjust lens position (Older revisions, newer being automatic) method. To no avail. The second one got hungry and decided to start eating discs in the most literal way possible. That poor brave GT4 disc, at least GameStop covered both. ---
**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/24 "2007-03-30T14:14:26Z")
[quote=“BuickGN,post:10,topic:26800"”] ill let u know later today if it worked, i gotta drive all the way to shit USA to get thermal paste, fuck!!! [/quote] Good luck with that, are they even still open? Check with the guys at Cyberjocks if not, they probably have what you need. ---
**Author:** ![Ovrwrkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ovrwrkd/32/7586_2.png) [@Ovrwrkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ovrwrkd)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/25 "2007-03-30T15:12:42Z")
You and I are exact opposites Jay, I’ve had very few problems with my Xbox and 360 and problems galore with my PS2 (still haven’t bought a PS3 and won’t until later this year). It really is luck of the draw. Stupid question but I’ll throw it out there, 360 is on a solid surface with good circulation around it? Is it sitting vertical or horizontal. I’ve found through my experiences that any system that can sit vertical shouldn’t, it ends up putting more stress on the components. ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/26 "2007-03-30T16:41:27Z")
[quote=“neurokinetik,post:24,topic:26800"”] Good luck with that, are they even still open? Check with the guys at Cyberjocks if not, they probably have what you need. [/quote] got it at best buy, forgot there was one right around the corner from me. ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/27 "2007-03-30T17:00:50Z")
ok, that method didnt work. I still have some testing to do as to how tight to make all the bolts, it might be too tight, further flexing the motherboard. lol, of course this wasnt as easy as initially expected. I might just go buy a core system and use my hdd and dvd drive in that, then test this one at my own time. ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/28 "2007-03-30T18:31:21Z")
[quote=“Itagaki,post:25,topic:26800"”] It really is luck of the draw. Stupid question but I’ll throw it out there, 360 is on a solid surface with good circulation around it? Is it sitting vertical or horizontal. I’ve found through my experiences that any system that can sit vertical shouldn’t, it ends up putting more stress on the components. [/quote] It’s sitting (was sitting) horizontally. I have it in my TV stand but there is a good amount of air around it and the stand is open on the front and back. I don’t know if I have enough room to take it out of the TV stand but i may try that when I get it back. ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/29 "2007-03-30T18:39:51Z")
^ Like this ![http://www.nyspeed.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1826&d=1175305171](http://www.nyspeed.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1826&d=1175305171) ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/30 "2007-03-31T11:47:05Z")
lol ok i just bought a core system, mine is shot for the time being. Something else is wrong with it, but im gunna play around since its junk. Im just hoping i get a good dvd in my new system to flash it. ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/31 "2007-03-31T11:49:10Z")
[quote=“FightinMike,post:15,topic:26800"”] solution: [http://www.vantecusa.com/p\_td\_8038h.html](http://www.vantecusa.com/p_td_8038h.html) As long as you dont mind the system sounding like it has a jet engine in it. [/quote] thats not gunna help shit if the mb flexes and breaks solder points, like many people have been experiencing. i wish MS would get rid of those shitty xbraces and design something that doesnt put so much stress on the center of the motherboard. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/32 "2007-03-31T14:14:44Z")
So what drive did you get? No firmware for the new BenQ drive, or the 79h Hitachi drive. ---
**Author:** ![FightinMike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@FightinMike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FightinMike)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/33 "2007-03-31T14:29:30Z")
I’ve heard of other fixes for this problem, one in particular a heat gun, has had the best success rate. The cold soldering from the shit manufacturing can be made to re-floe by applying heat from a heat gun. Google it im sure many results will pop up. ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/34 "2007-03-31T15:18:51Z")
[quote=“JayS,post:32,topic:26800"”] So what drive did you get? No firmware for the new BenQ drive, or the 79h Hitachi drive. [/quote] 79 can be done, but you have to open the drive, remove the epoxy on the board, removing the tsop, reflashing it, then soldering it back…lol ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/35 "2007-04-04T11:38:28Z")
got my 360 today,got the ms28 drve, im so happy. yay. lol out of warranty 5 minutes after i got it, but i managed to get the ms security sticker off without it tearing using a heat gun. now off to flash this bitch. so if anyone has a ms28 FW drive, chime in, as im donig this today sometime. ---
**Author:** ![Carless](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carless/32/5032_2.png) [@Carless](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carless)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/36 "2007-04-04T12:28:08Z")
[quote=“JaysGreenLX,post:29,topic:26800"”] ^ Like this [/quote] Im jealous. You make me fell poor. I have this. LOL.Mind the mess the pic was taken befor I moved in. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/37 "2007-04-04T12:30:45Z")
Ha… yeah, I guess I shouldn’t have said _can’t_ flash the 79, but it’s a real pain in the ass and well above the ability of the casual hobbiest.I’ll PM you about your MS 28. ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/38 "2007-04-04T12:57:47Z")
yeah im glad i didnt get that drive. lol i would of kept sending it back till i got one i could flash. ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/39 "2007-04-04T13:03:48Z")
I can’t wait until my Xbox 360 breaks again. I am going to bitch out the customer service until they give me and Elite. I’ll pay the difference in price, but there is no way I am going to take back the same 360 that keeps breaking. It’s been almost a week since mine died. I haven’t heard anything from the MS service center yet. I really need to play NHL2k7. I am tempted to buy it used for PS3 and then take it back for something else when I get my 360 back. ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800/40 "2007-04-04T13:48:25Z")
call them, they are real idiots from what i hear. good luck understanding any of them also. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-is-a-piece-of-s-t/26800.md?page=3)