# Xbox One **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [May 23, 2013, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075 "2013-05-23T14:02:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/41 "2013-06-10T19:03:10Z")
Yeah, DRM is ridiculous. They will never win that war. Ever. Someone, eventually, will hack this console too. C4EVA, the guy who hacked the 360, was offered a job from MS to change sides. That’s how good he was. They couldn’t beat him. Some kid, some day will take his place when he’s too old for hacking. In fact, I’ve been running the same firmware on both my OG 360 and my Slim for months. Microsoft has put out Live updates a couple times already and hasn’t even bothered disabling the hacks like they used to. 1) Because they are gearing up for the One and 2) because on the 360 in particular, it’s pointless. C4EVA will just defeat them again. I’m with JWilliams though…I only buy 2-3 games a year (the ones that are worth it to me - like Assassins Creed) and my connection is always on. However, I have been screwed on games in the past where it wasn’t good and I had to sell it back to GameStop. Until I hear the 100% confirmed information on how much that’ll cost me with the One, I will hold off and stick to the 360. ---
**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/42 "2013-06-10T20:09:27Z")
Just finished watching the PS4 presser. SONY gets my cash. Next gen is over for Xbox before it even begins. LITERALLY! #3rdconsolecurseisreal ---
**Author:** ![slwrthnu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slwrthnu/32/6296_2.png) [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/43 "2013-06-10T20:14:44Z")
i don’t get how anyone could want an xbox one, yea i want my console to track me even when its off, oh wait americans no longer care about privacy. ---
**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/44 "2013-06-10T20:15:32Z")
![http://abload.de/img/399ps4yfu2g.png](http://abload.de/img/399ps4yfu2g.png) ![http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i58/2/5/21/frabz-XBOX-ONE-Never-Had-A-Chance-20132013-232a44.jpg](http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i58/2/5/21/frabz-XBOX-ONE-Never-Had-A-Chance-20132013-232a44.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/45 "2013-06-10T20:16:54Z")
[ame=“[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA)”]Official PlayStation Used Game Instructional Video - YouTube[/ame] ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/46 "2013-06-10T20:22:35Z")
:lol ---
**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/47 "2013-06-10T20:25:00Z")
_Final score:_ Xbox: 1 PlayStation: 4 ![http://www.destructoid.com//ul/255949-sony.jpg](http://www.destructoid.com//ul/255949-sony.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/48 "2013-06-11T08:16:22Z")
> _Sony didn’t just capitalize on Microsoft’s mistakes over the past few weeks. They picked up the ball Microsoft dropped, tossed it in the air, then smacked it out of the park. Then they turned and laughed in their faces…_ > **[PS4's Price And Policies Humiliate Microsoft's Xbox One At E3](https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/06/11/playstation-4s-price-and-policies-humiliate-microsofts-xbox-one-at-e3/)** > > Video For the past few years, people have accused E3 of becoming a rather dull affair. Companies show their games, fans support whoever they're most loyal to, and journalists are forced to give press conferences silly report card grades. Rinse and... Look at it this way, this is a good thing if anyone still had their sight on a Xbox One. Either MS will now have to drop the price on the machine and/or backpedal on some if not all of their anti-consumer DRM/used game policy or both, or they will have to sell it with some free stuff to make it appealing. ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/49 "2013-06-11T08:25:21Z")
I seriously thought about moving to an XBOX from Sony because everyone I know has the XBOX and I wanted to be able to play online with them. But I will 100% be sticking with Sony esp since half my friends are switching now haha ---
**Author:** ![ds50r](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ds50r/32/3491_2.png) [@ds50r](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ds50r)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/50 "2013-06-11T09:12:43Z")
sony 100% i gave xbox a shot and hate the controller and not into it at all… it just sits under my tv ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/51 "2013-06-11T09:40:09Z")
I’m still on the fence. Evidently, you can share a library between 10 family members. This means me and my brother can split the cost of games since we play many of the same games anyway. You just need to designate a person as a family member in settings or what not. ---
**Author:** ![jwilliams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jwilliams](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jwilliams)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/52 "2013-06-11T11:15:13Z")
They each have their pros and cons. I prefer the Xbox and believe their services for the same price (Sony does charge) are much better on the Xbox side then PlayStation. You dont agree? Go buy a PS4 and enjoy it, because I know I dont care, and you shouldnt either. And ill just leave this here… > **[Sony's Jack Tretton says publishers can enforce DRM (update)](https://www.theverge.com/2013/6/11/4419566/sony-jack-tretton-publishers-can-choose-to-enforce-drm)** > > Less than 24 hours ago, Sony Computer Entertainment of America president Jack Tretton was met with uproarious applause after revealing that PlayStation 4 disc-based games can be freely given to... Cliff Notes… The PS4 is 95% the same as the Xbox One with used games, companies can choose to enforce DRM… ---
**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/53 "2013-06-11T13:00:05Z")
> [@New York needs to raise taxes](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/94): > > And ill just leave this here… > > [Sony's Jack Tretton says publishers can enforce DRM (update) - The Verge](http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/11/4419566/sony-jack-tretton-publishers-can-choose-to-enforce-drm) > > Cliff Notes… The PS4 is 95% the same as the Xbox One with used games, companies can choose to enforce DRM… > **[Did Sony confirm DRM on PS4 after all? Not quite!](https://www.destructoid.com/did-sony-confirm-drm-on-ps4-after-all-not-quite/)** > > PS4 retains all the policies PS3 had, basically \[Update: Sony has outright confirmed my initial interpretation. As reported by GameFront,... I can see how this is confusing but nope, and by the way Polygon is funded by Microsoft. Xbox One’s DRM is at platform level, that Microsoft choose to build into their system to facilitate DRM for **_ALL_** games. PS4, just like what we have now with Xbox360 & PS3, is at publisher level; the ONLY one that have the capability to enable it (if they choose to) is by the publisher such as EA’s online pass.; and SONY already confirmed outright that all 1st party stuff will have no DRM. Not trying to sound like a fanboy, but that is what separate these two platforms at this point (disregarding the obvious price difference). Ultimately it is your money, and I would never fault anyone for buying hardware for exclusives especially the only reason I have a Xbox is because Steel Battalion (yeah, Dat Game)…:rofl ---
**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/54 "2013-06-11T13:05:05Z")
^ No worries, I only had Xbox for the Mech Assualt games :lol I would get a Ps4 if it comes bundled with GT6, otherwise I have no reason to move from the Ps3/PC ---
**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/55 "2013-06-11T13:14:11Z")
> [@More Fail then you thought existed](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-fail-then-you-thought-existed/50443/59): > > ^ No worries, I only had Xbox for the Mech Assualt games :lol > > I would get a Ps4 if it comes bundled with GT6, otherwise I have no reason to move from the Ps3/PC nah man, GT6 for PS3 only. The good thing is when PS4 is out I can still rent PS3 games…:rofl ---
**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/56 "2013-06-11T13:36:30Z")
Perfect, so I dont have to buy either :rofl ---
**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/57 "2013-06-11T14:27:25Z")
The fact is all the shitstrom with Microsoft and Xbox One and all these talk about how supposedly PS4 won the next gen already is tragic to begin with. If SONY did won, then they’ve won it by essentially doing absolutely nothing. At the presser the audience are literally in tears and giving standing obviation for the simple fact that SONY changes nothing in terms of game ownership. That would be like giving your server at Danny’s a standing obviation when he/she brings out your food you ordered. :rofl If only Microsoft didn’t set us up the bomb and force the kinect up people’s asses, but instead just do a Xbox 720 so they can match PS4’s pricing, then they will probably win next gen or a tie. Instead they now have a mainstream box target for mainstream people but selling it at hardcore gamer prices with all the restrictions & features that no hardcore gamers want. ---
**Author:** ![Gundamzeppelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Gundamzeppelin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gundamzeppelin)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/58 "2013-06-11T14:54:26Z")
Just pre ordered the PS4… tried to get my hands on an Xbone a well but they were sold out! there go’s my plan to flip both on ebay for cash ☹ ---
**Author:** ![waltbabyluv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/waltbabyluv/32/6300_2.png) [@waltbabyluv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/waltbabyluv)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/59 "2013-06-11T15:42:44Z")
I have 3 Xbox 360s in my house. Me, my son, and my daughter have our own boxes and gamertags. So if all of us want to play a game I have to buy 3 copies instead of the 1 copy inwould have to usually buy? That sucks… ---
**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075/60 "2013-06-11T17:23:39Z")
> [@AT&T Employee's Chime In.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/at-t-employees-chime-in/52954/4): > > Just pre ordered the PS4… tried to get my hands on an Xbone a well but they were sold out! there go’s my plan to flip both on ebay for cash ☹ Just got back from gamestop for my pre-order. > [@Carnut = t3h awesome](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carnut-t3h-awesome/52846/26): > > I have 3 Xbox 360s in my house. Me, my son, and my daughter have our own boxes and gamertags. So if all of us want to play a game I have to buy 3 copies instead of the 1 copy inwould have to usually buy? That sucks… I don’t think so. With Xbox One you can definitely share games among family members, personally I didn’t spend time reading through their “What you can do with the the game you just bought” policy, but feel free. Here is the link: [How Games Licensing Works on Xbox One - Xbox Wire](http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license) [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-one/267075.md?page=4)