# Yeamabu's question, AndyB learns Physics, Skurge learns Probability
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [August 4, 2011, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230 "2011-08-04T05:38:52Z")
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/61 "2011-08-05T11:23:33Z")
> [@Minglor](#):
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> Holy fuck.
> I forgot how devoid of intelligence this forum can be.
> I’m not even going to attempt to explain the massive logic fail.
+1, though newman did a pretty good job explaining it.
And waivers don’t mean shit. A good lawyer will spin that waiver to a jury and have them believing it’s an admission by the organizers that they were allowing people to do something that was likely to result in an accident.
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### Author:  [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/62 "2011-08-05T11:25:02Z")
Moar pics are needed
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### Author:  [@AndyB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AndyB)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/63 "2011-08-05T12:00:30Z")
the title of this post is aweful, I did not learn anything besides how people thought it was SIQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ to watch a burn out in front of a car that was spinning its tires forward at them, and the driver was screaming “America Fuck Yeah” while during once again SIQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ burn outs!!!
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for people as dumb as me I made a picture!
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/64 "2011-08-05T12:02:38Z")
There’s a real easy to see which is more dangerous. Find me a video of someone doing a STATIONARY burnout and crashing.
Now find me a video of someone drifting and crashing.
It’s really hard to find examples of the former because it’s really hard to crash a car that’s not moving. The latter though, are EVERYWHERE, because the whole point of drifting is to put a car right on the edge of being out of control and hold it there at speed.
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### Author:  [@AndyB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AndyB)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/65 "2011-08-05T12:04:52Z")
I totally agree with you but I thought it was dumb that they were calling one dangerous while the other not
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### Author:  [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/66 "2011-08-05T12:13:15Z")
> [@AndyB](#):
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> I totally agree with you but I thought it was dumb that they were calling one dangerous while the other not
I’m not sure they said that Newman’s was risk free , but worlds apart from the risk involved in drifting.
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### Author:  [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/67 "2011-08-05T12:19:27Z")
> [@Paulo](#):
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> I’m not sure they said that Newman’s was risk free , but worlds apart from the risk involved in drifting.
When would you like your cookie delivered.
All we are saying is that a waiver to jump a stationary car is not equal to a waiver to stand in the potential path of a speeding out of control vehicle.
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### Author:  [@AndyB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AndyB)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/68 "2011-08-05T12:20:10Z")
PS whos bullhorn is at my store? I heard it was the NFG groups bullhorn?
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### Author:  [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/69 "2011-08-05T12:22:05Z")
LOL, I believe that it may be IanK’s. He is the only person that I know with a bullhorn.
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### Author:  [@AndyB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AndyB)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/70 "2011-08-05T12:25:48Z")
All i know is there is a red and white bullhorn that has some how showed up at my store, if its Newmans I am going to put my sack on the mouth piece for getting me my own “drama” thread!
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/71 "2011-08-05T12:28:33Z")
> [@AndyB](#):
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> for people as dumb as me I made a picture!
haha, but seriously man this picture is EXACTLY what happened that day. People were standing right where you marked “safe” in the picture. No one was in front of his car during the burnout in the “unsafe” area that you marked.
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### Author:  [@Skurge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skurge)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/72 "2011-08-05T12:38:06Z")
> [@tpgsr](#):
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> When would you like your cookie delivered.
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> All we are saying is that a waiver to jump a stationary car is not equal to a waiver to stand in the potential path of a speeding out of control vehicle.
i think either way they can both be bad, what if the bike fell short and the person riding it ended up under a tire spinning at 100mph? i’m sure thats just as much damage as a car hitting you at 60 or so
a waiver is a waiver, if someone had gotten hurt doing the bike thing, i’m sure they still would have taken the track or whoever to court over it
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### Author:  [@FadetoBlack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FadetoBlack)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/73 "2011-08-05T12:38:26Z")
This is still going on?
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### Author:  [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/74 "2011-08-05T12:39:12Z")
> [@tpgsr](#):
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> When would you like your cookie delivered.
Early next week, if possible. Thanks. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Skurge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skurge)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/75 "2011-08-05T12:39:23Z")
> [@FadetoBlack](#):
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> This is still going on?
i didn’t see this thread till today hah
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### Author:  [@AndyB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AndyB)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/76 "2011-08-05T12:43:22Z")
> [@Skurge](#):
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> i think either way they can both be bad, what if the bike fell short and the person riding it ended up under a tire spinning at 100mph? i’m sure thats just as much damage as a car hitting you at 60 or so
>
> a waiver is a waiver, if someone had gotten hurt doing the bike thing, i’m sure they still would have taken the track or whoever to court over it
BINGO, now I am getting him a cookie!
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### Author:  [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/77 "2011-08-05T12:45:33Z")
Skurge and AndyB a match made in heaven?
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/78 "2011-08-05T12:46:48Z")
Another picture of how things went down, with Google earth scale:
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### Author:  [@AndyB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AndyB)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/79 "2011-08-05T12:49:14Z")
^thats not fair using technology against me, thats cheating!
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2011, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yeamabus-question-andyb-learns-physics-skurge-learns-probability/215230/80 "2011-08-05T12:53:38Z")
> [@Skurge](#):
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> … what if the bike fell short and the person riding it ended up under a tire spinning at 100mph?
Impossible. The ramp was literally next to the car:
But you do point out another difference between these two situations;
Bike jump = human in motion, vehicle stationary.
Drifting = vehicle in motion, human stationary.
Which do you think would be worse if the human and vehicle collided?
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