# Yes or no?
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [September 9, 2007, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091 "2007-09-09T19:46:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 3
### Author:  [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/41 "2007-09-10T08:10:35Z")
i like the black
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/42 "2007-09-10T08:15:51Z")
[quote=“66impalass,post:40,topic:35091"”]
wait, so now there are two companies that produce extremely poor quality control rims?
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Why do you say they are extremely poor quality? What would be your choices for new wheels?
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### Author:  [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/43 "2007-09-10T08:19:28Z")
CCW, kinesis(slightly questionable even now) or BBS, unless you are going for a JDM viper than I would look at RAYs
HRE has had many issues with quality control regarding sizing of the rim, and are also extremely brittle, which I would be worried about especially with NYS roads
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/44 "2007-09-10T08:25:22Z")
[quote=“66impalass,post:43,topic:35091"”]
CCW, kinesis(slightly questionable even now) or BBS, unless you are going for a JDM viper than I would look at RAYs
HRE has had many issues with quality control regarding sizing of the rim, and are also extremely brittle, which I would be worried about especially with NYS roads
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I dont think CCW and BBS have the sizes I want. In fact…BBS does not have ANY wheels for a viper.
F: 19’s 10.5 Wide
R: 20’s 13-14 wide
With similar 5-spoke types…and a large lip for the rear.
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### Author:  [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/45 "2007-09-10T08:38:40Z")
[http://www.ccwheel.com/files/wheelprofiles-model.php?id=sp600](http://www.ccwheel.com/files/wheelprofiles-model.php?id=sp600)
20X10",20X11", 20X12.5", 20X13"
19X8.5", 19X9", 19X9.5", 19X10", 19X10.5" ,19X11", 19x11.5", 19X13"
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/46 "2007-09-10T08:43:18Z")
[quote=“66impalass,post:45,topic:35091"”]
[http://www.ccwheel.com/files/wheelprofiles-model.php?id=sp600](http://www.ccwheel.com/files/wheelprofiles-model.php?id=sp600)
20X10",20X11", 20X12.5", 20X13"
19X8.5", 19X9", 19X9.5", 19X10", 19X10.5" ,19X11", 19x11.5", 19X13"
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I just finished looking at their website. Those look hot. I think if I choose CCW, these are the ones.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/47 "2007-09-10T08:46:55Z")
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### Author:  [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/48 "2007-09-10T08:47:16Z")
Definitely go with CCW. The original wheels posted look like $50 walmart RIMZ. I’m sure they aren’t but I know I wouldn’t be putting them on a nice car…
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### Author:  [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/49 "2007-09-10T09:09:14Z")
Have fun keeping a full polished wheel clean
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### Author:  [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/50 "2007-09-10T09:19:33Z")
I personally think the 6 bolt 6 spoke combo is better than the 6 blot 5 spoke,
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### Author:  [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/51 "2007-09-10T09:21:14Z")
i saw a red viper w/ gold mesh rims and it was HOT.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/52 "2007-09-10T09:25:51Z")
I will never do mesh or gold.
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### Author:  [@psphinx81](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psphinx81)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/53 "2007-09-10T09:27:42Z")
CCW’s or go home
kens wheels are fucking amazing, so are chucks etc… those wheels look sick on your car :tup:
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### Author:  [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/54 "2007-09-10T09:30:15Z")
CCW are nice, but you guys are completely forgetting that we are comparing 3 Pc. wheels to 1 Pc wheels now. It is EXTREMELY easy to damage wheels on a Viper with their widths, offsets and low profile tires. Having the ability to repair them without having to buy the farm over again is a big asset.
CCW last I checked does not make 20s nor 13" wide rims either. Granted its been a while…
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### Author:  [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/55 "2007-09-10T09:33:17Z")
[quote=“66impalass,post:40,topic:35091"”]
wait, so now there are two companies that produce extremely poor quality control rims?
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those people left HRE BECAUSE they sucked. iForged wheels do not have the QC, fitment or breakage issues associated with HRE, and are not banned by any organization like HRE. I have ordered 16 wheels from them since the begining of summer, and not one QC issue.
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### Author:  [@psphinx81](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psphinx81)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/56 "2007-09-10T09:33:32Z")
ken runs 11in wide wheel with 315/30’s without a problem. he even went through an accident and the wheels didnt have any damage to them. ccw \> \*
im not saying iforged is bad by any means, id just say ccw is a better quality. its a viper, go big on wheels
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### Author:  [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/57 "2007-09-10T09:33:32Z")
[quote=“Final GTS,post:54,topic:35091"”]
CCW are nice, but you guys are completely forgetting that we are comparing 3 Pc. wheels to 1 Pc wheels now. It is EXTREMELY easy to damage wheels on a Viper with their widths, offsets and low profile tires. Having the ability to repair them without having to buy the farm over again is a big asset.
CCW last I checked does not make 20s nor 13" wide rims either. Granted its been a while…
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[http://nyspeed.com/forums/showpost.php?p=664550&postcount=45](http://nyspeed.com/forums/showpost.php?p=664550&postcount=45)
having to repair a 20.3" rim multiple times\<\<\<\<\<\<\<\<\<\< a 20" rim once in a while
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### Author:  [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/58 "2007-09-10T09:35:57Z")
[quote=“Final GTS,post:55,topic:35091"”]
those people left HRE BECAUSE they sucked. iForged wheels do not have the QC, fitment or breakage issues associated with HRE, and are not banned by any organization like HRE. I have ordered 16 wheels from them since the begining of summer, and not one QC issue.
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pretty sure the first post is an HRE rim
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### Author:  [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/59 "2007-09-10T09:39:54Z")
[quote=“66impalass,post:57,topic:35091"”]
[http://nyspeed.com/forums/showpost.php?p=664550&postcount=45](http://nyspeed.com/forums/showpost.php?p=664550&postcount=45)
having to repair a 20.3" rim multiple times\<\<\<\<\<\<\<\<\<\< a 20" rim once in a while
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Duh… overlooked that post. Yeah, as I said… its been a while. I personally have no interest in CCW so I dont keep up with them at all.
I dont think you’ll be repairing an iForged wheel any more than a CCW of the same size…
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### Author:  [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2007, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yes-or-no/35091/60 "2007-09-10T09:41:43Z")
[quote=“66impalass,post:58,topic:35091"”]
pretty sure the first post is an HRE rim
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Nope, that is an iForged wheel, can tell by the center cap and spoke design.
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