# You don't "need" a cold air intake
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-dont-need-a-cold-air-intake/50543
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [June 24, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-dont-need-a-cold-air-intake/50543 "2008-06-24T18:25:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2008, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-dont-need-a-cold-air-intake/50543/41 "2008-06-25T13:18:31Z")
Keep the stock oil pan, and get a windage tray. Removing the balance shafts is good for any more power than stock anyways, and the stage 3 revving. Then, in the balance shafts place you can put a nice windage tray and get the benefits of oil baffles, with the extra benefit of crank scrapers.
There are options. [crankscrapers.com](http://crankscrapers.com) makes some good stuff. I have the DCR windage tray in mine.
I run the DCR windage tray, no balance shafts, the DCR oil pump with coated gears, oil modifier in the head to prevent lifter float, the big filter kit with a K&N Viper oil filter, and 7 qts. of oil :hang:
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### Author:  [@TsiTalon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TsiTalon)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2008, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-dont-need-a-cold-air-intake/50543/42 "2008-06-25T13:22:36Z")
> [@DeusExMachina](#):
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> Hey TsiTalon, you should think about getting a baffled oil pan if you’re going to do more track days. Starving the pick up is scary.
word cotton… thats in the works too before the next event!
thanks for the advice!
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### Author:  [@DeusExMachina](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeusExMachina)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2008, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-dont-need-a-cold-air-intake/50543/43 "2008-06-25T19:35:10Z")
If only you’d take turns, Mark. 🙂
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### Author:  [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-dont-need-a-cold-air-intake/50543/44 "2008-06-25T19:51:58Z")
> [@AKA-FERRARI](#):
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> cai on a turbo car is retarded…think about it , air comes in, get heated by turbo,sent through fmic and cooled. cai is only good IF ANY on NA. simple stuff
actualy, common sense would tell you that the warmer the intake charge, the warmer it will be when it leaves the turbo, the warmer it will be when it leaves the intercooler
just like you can get the interior of your car cooler if you run the A/C with the windows up instead of down
simple stuff …
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### Author:  [@elmisterioso666](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/elmisterioso666)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2008, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-dont-need-a-cold-air-intake/50543/45 "2008-06-25T19:55:46Z")
I gain 30hp with out the filter
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### Author:  [@cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cky89)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-dont-need-a-cold-air-intake/50543/46 "2008-06-25T20:10:04Z")
> [@elmisterioso666](#):
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> I gain 30hp with out the filter
Jesus christ, lol
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### Author:  [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2008, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-dont-need-a-cold-air-intake/50543/47 "2008-06-25T20:48:34Z")
Tonight I had mixed results. I went slower, but my 60’ times were down due to spinning more. I only got 3 runs in, and it was hard to tell for sure. My MPH went down 1 mph, but my ET went down like… 2 - 3 tenths. I am pretty sure it was from me spinning 1st gear so much more. I would spin 1st instantly to redline (with the slicks) and then grab 2nd gear, where it would bog, HARD! Then when it spooled back up again, I would complete my run, going 12.1 @ 118.6. I wanted to keep testing, and see how my MPH was if I nailed a 1.8 and didn’t bog 2nd, but it was so busy, I only got 3 runs in.
So, I would like to say these results are inconclusive. Maybe this weekend I can go again and find out.
–mark
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### Author:  [@cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cky89)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-dont-need-a-cold-air-intake/50543/48 "2008-06-25T20:51:08Z")
Do you have a goal time, and et?
Do you think the no filter will net you a large gain?
What would you like to see difference wise running no filter? like your estimates…
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### Author:  [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-dont-need-a-cold-air-intake/50543/49 "2008-06-25T21:37:13Z")
> [@DeusExMachina](#):
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> If only you’d take turns, Mark. 🙂
chances of that happening? :gay3: about as good as him finding his MAF
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### Author:  [@harvboi05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/harvboi05)
#### Post date: [June 27, 2008, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-dont-need-a-cold-air-intake/50543/50 "2008-06-27T05:04:28Z")
> [@neonglh](#):
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> Tonight I had mixed results. I went slower, but my 60’ times were down due to spinning more. I only got 3 runs in, and it was hard to tell for sure. My MPH went down 1 mph, but my ET went down like… 2 - 3 tenths. I am pretty sure it was from me spinning 1st gear so much more. I would spin 1st instantly to redline (with the slicks) and then grab 2nd gear, where it would bog, HARD! Then when it spooled back up again, I would complete my run, going 12.1 @ 118.6. I wanted to keep testing, and see how my MPH was if I nailed a 1.8 and didn’t bog 2nd, but it was so busy, I only got 3 runs in.
>
> So, I would like to say these results are inconclusive. Maybe this weekend I can go again and find out.
>
> –mark
i used to ride the limiter in my crx in first gear til wheel speed caught up a lil bit. seemed to help a bit. should have my neon up and running by mid next week :snky: we will have to do it up!
im guessing you got a scan gauge now?
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