# You know what sucks? **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [July 13, 2006, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892 "2006-07-13T07:41:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/1 "2006-07-13T07:41:35Z")
5psi @ 4000rpm and 10psi @ 6000rpm That is all. :sadwavey: P.S. [http://www.son240sx.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25630](http://www.son240sx.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25630) ---
**Author:** ![AnDrEw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AnDrEw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AnDrEw)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/2 "2006-07-13T07:42:39Z")
Gonad when the hell will ur car finally see daylight šŸ˜¢ Andrew. ---
**Author:** ![Hurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hurricane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hurricane)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/3 "2006-07-13T07:43:41Z")
in the Ghetttoooooo ---
**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/4 "2006-07-13T07:49:15Z")
> [@AnDrEw](#): > > Gonad when the hell will ur car finally see daylight šŸ˜¢ > > Andrew. Well right now the weather is pretty cloudy, with scattered sunlight. But yea, major wastegate leak due to lack of valve seat flange (my own fault for not realizing how it should function). ā˜¹ ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_SG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sasha_sg/32/5477_2.png) [@Sasha\_SG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sasha_SG)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/5 "2006-07-13T07:56:55Z")
for now put washers between the actuator and the turbo it will put more preload on it and help you build boost faster ---
**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/6 "2006-07-13T08:10:11Z")
Sasha - Gonad is externally gated. Gonad - You may also want to consider a Turbosmart 38mm Ultragate. There ā€œSleeperā€ series of gates look to be the best gate on the market right now. They can withstand far more heat than a Tial piece. I suppose it depends on what your ultimate power goal isā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/7 "2006-07-13T08:27:16Z")
I have no idea why I did this but the gist of it is: I have a manifold made for 38mm WG I had a 40mm HKS WG that I bought some time ago (and spent quite a bit). Not wanting to lose on it, I figure I build an adapter from 38mm to 40mm. It worked out well. Except I missed one cruicial step. In a factory 40mm HKS WG kit, there is a flange that includes a ring seat. So as it stands now, my turbo runs on approximately 75% of exhaust power with the rest leaking out. With the layout and all, itā€™s simply not worth it to re-flange the seat so. As for power goals, 300rwhp this summer would be nice. Or whatever 12 15psi gives me. :hs: Now you knowā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/8 "2006-07-13T08:29:21Z")
> [@Happy240sx](#): > > Gonad - You may also want to consider a Turbosmart 38mm Ultragate. Oā€™rly. I obviously donā€™t want to make another mistake on the exhaust portion (Iā€™ve already made two - or three; canā€™t remember.) ā˜¹ But Iā€™ll look into the TS units. ---
**Author:** ![\_RSTuning.ca](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_rstuning.ca/32/6098_2.png) [@\_RSTuning.ca](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_RSTuning.ca)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/9 "2006-07-13T08:49:24Z")
yeah i would agree about the turbosmart units. i personalyl think tial is very overated and hks is just jdm. im personally running the 38mm turbosmart on my ka-t and it is extremely consistent. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_SG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sasha_sg/32/5477_2.png) [@Sasha\_SG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sasha_SG)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/10 "2006-07-13T12:18:53Z")
what about welding your 38-40mm adapter to the wastegate? if its possible id just do that ---
**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/11 "2006-07-13T12:53:43Z")
> [@Sasha (Turbo)](#): > > what about welding your 38-40mm adapter to the wastegate? if its possible id just do that No no, the adapter itself has no leaks. Apart from the crap ass welding, the adapter is good. And no problem with those flanges my dad made either. It has to do with the wastegate itself. The wastegateā€™s seatā€™s hole is larger then the wastegateā€™s plunger itself. Look closely at the plunger/face on the wastegate. The plungerā€™s valveā€™s diameter is slightly (25%) smaller then the entire opening. The 4-bolt flange on the adapter is supposed to have a ā€˜lipā€™ that cups into the wastegate, creating a full 100% seal. Hope this clears things up. And donā€™t ask why I like to complicate things. ā˜¹ Note the flange in the foreground with the lip (44mm/50mm unit shown) ![http://www.importparts.com/shop/images/forcedinduction/hks_racing_wg.jpg](http://www.importparts.com/shop/images/forcedinduction/hks_racing_wg.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![G-E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/g-e/32/5546_2.png) [@G-E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/G-E)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/12 "2006-07-13T13:13:26Z")
couldnā€™t you cut out a gasket from sheet metal and sandwich it? Iā€™d think even aluminum sheet would work? ---
**Author:** ![alesserfate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@alesserfate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/alesserfate)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/13 "2006-07-13T13:25:25Z")
gasket that bitch so tyte she cant see sunlite ---
**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/14 "2006-07-13T13:44:58Z")
It wouldnā€™t work. Trust me, Iā€™ve thought about it. ---
**Author:** ![zeeshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c4cdca/32.png) [@zeeshan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zeeshan)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/15 "2006-07-13T14:09:41Z")
what is this? lets see who can give the best ghetto setup idea? gautam is doing the right thing now and going with a tial 38mm. they arenā€™t overrated ā€“ they are proven. they happen to be produced in the states, so they can be found cheap. the turbosmart units are made in AU, so they become the prime use there, and they are proven there. everyone makes mistakes ā€“ and gautam made a major one by not putting the valve seat fire ring in cause a lot of exhaust leak to by pass. heā€™s fixing it properly now by going with a wastegate with a fire ring. that is the ONLY solution to this. ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/16 "2006-07-13T14:38:19Z")
What a waste. I sold my BRAND NEW Tial 38mm wastegate for $220. I paid $295 for it brand new. :S ---
**Author:** ![TorontoGT-R33](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torontogt-r33/32/5500_2.png) [@TorontoGT-R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TorontoGT-R33)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/17 "2006-07-13T14:46:52Z")
![http://www.rsci.com/uploads/images/18/duct-tape.jpg](http://www.rsci.com/uploads/images/18/duct-tape.jpg) :thumleft: ---
**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/18 "2006-07-13T15:21:38Z")
:pat: at some of the replies ---
**Author:** ![Original\_Nutta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/original_nutta/32/5474_2.png) [@Original\_Nutta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Original_Nutta)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2006, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/19 "2006-07-14T03:21:06Z")
Have you tried just not modifying the engine? See if that works. ---
**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2006, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892/20 "2006-07-14T07:24:21Z")
> [@Original Nutta](#): > > Have you tried just not modifying the engine? See if that works. minus well take the bus then :dunno: [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-what-sucks/97892.md?page=2)