# You make it hard to defend you GM... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 16, 2009, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195 "2009-08-16T07:47:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/21 "2009-08-16T12:26:46Z")
> [@95dime](#): > > why not weld the shaft back together or fab up your own shaft that is more comfortable for you? or better yet a short throw if that has a long reach. Thought about getting it welded but it’s a small amount of metal wrapped in some kind of hard rubber for noise insulation. Several people have replaced them with various aftermarket pieces that are solid steel only to complain about the noise and vibration since this is bolted right on top of the trans. I’ll just pick up another stock one and try to be a little more gentle with it. Or maybe pick up two so I have a spare for the next time this happens. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/22 "2009-08-16T18:34:59Z")
LMAO at pic with vice grips. Nice. Stay classy. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![buffalo\_vr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@buffalo\_vr4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/buffalo_vr4)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/23 "2009-08-16T18:52:01Z")
i have many good aftermarket shift knobs for sale if you are interested. it’s made by DOJO. can give u a good price. ---
**Author:** ![1sik\_bmw](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1sik_bmw/32/7341_2.png) [@1sik\_bmw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1sik_bmw)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/24 "2009-08-16T18:59:08Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > ![http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd75/jsears77/photo-28.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/4/3/432018ff6422a3e59ec7ef0743b4f95e21737cbe.jpeg) ALL THAT IS MAN ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/25 "2009-08-16T19:52:48Z")
^if that’s Craftsman then it’s prolly got a better warranty and life than any GM replacement you’re going to throw on there…lol ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/26 "2009-08-16T20:13:29Z")
epic. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/27 "2009-08-17T05:16:31Z")
![http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/post-jbweld.jpg](http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/post-jbweld.jpg) Do it. ---
**Author:** ![traumadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@traumadog](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/traumadog)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/28 "2009-08-17T12:03:30Z")
Hey - looks like that shaft snapped above the rubber isolator. Anyhow, you could probably get by with a Lou’s Short Stick replacement for it. If not, I have my stock shifter somewhere in my garage I might let you have… Oh, and most of the “my shifter broke” threads I’ve seen on [LS1GTO.com](http://LS1GTO.com) have been related to the B&M shifter, not the stock one. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/29 "2009-08-17T12:18:34Z")
> [@traumadog](#): > > Hey - looks like that shaft snapped above the rubber isolator. Anyhow, you could probably get by with a Lou’s Short Stick replacement for it. > > If not, I have my stock shifter somewhere in my garage I might let you have… > > Oh, and most of the “my shifter broke” threads I’ve seen on [LS1GTO.com](http://LS1GTO.com) have been related to the B&M shifter, not the stock one. The LSS that is used with the stock knob is out of stock, but a guy on [ls1gto.com](http://ls1gto.com) is waiting for the threaded LSS to come in the mail to replace his non-threaded LSS and said he’d sell me his old one as soon as he swaps it out in a couple days. Probably going that route but thanks for the offer. ---
**Author:** ![LXIFLYBY](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lxiflyby/32/7399_2.png) [@LXIFLYBY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LXIFLYBY)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/30 "2009-08-17T13:21:28Z")
spin the vise grips 180 degrees, then youll have pistol grip like shifting ---
**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/31 "2009-08-17T13:35:46Z")
> [@LXIFLYBY](#): > > spin the vise grips 180 degrees, then youll have pistol grip like shifting Don’t forget the duct tape around the handle so that it looks legit. ---
**Author:** ![gravesdu\_99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gravesdu_99/32/5047_2.png) [@gravesdu\_99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gravesdu_99)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/32 "2009-08-17T14:56:55Z")
holy shit this is the funniest thread I’ve seen in a long time. I can’t even read it because I’m laughing so hard. But seriously I’d just get a nice B&M shifter for it. ---
**Author:** ![Hass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/51bf81/32.png) [@Hass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hass)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/33 "2009-08-17T15:51:30Z")
I would keep the vice grips tbh. Would be good for looks at meets or just whenever someone looks in your car for whatever reason. Shift knob is on layaway? ---
**Author:** ![sweet89s13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweet89s13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sweet89s13)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/34 "2009-08-18T06:28:23Z")
Gm shift lever (red hot stiching) # 92146323 list is 273.91 i can get it to you for 205.43 local warehouse next day. PM me the last 8 of your vin to verifiy. if you want the stock one. After working at GM i dislike the quality of GTO’s. well all gm’s. The only vehicles that hold up that i only see for oil tires and brakes are Buicks…(Besides the Enclave.) ---
**Author:** ![sweet89s13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweet89s13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sweet89s13)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/35 "2009-08-18T06:41:06Z")
> [@gravesdu\_99](#): > > But seriously I’d just get a nice B&M shifter for it. You dummy can’t you read? Earlier in the thread it is stated on ls1 forums the main broken shift knob/lever threads are from b&m. Learn to read dickface. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/36 "2009-08-18T06:48:24Z")
> [@sweet89s13](#): > > Gm shift lever (red hot stiching) # 92146323 list is 273.91 i can get it to you for 205.43 local warehouse next day. PM me the last 8 of your vin to verifiy. if you want the stock one. Don Davis quoted me $188 for the new shift arm, no discount. I’m guessing by the fact that your part mentions stitching it’s not the metal arm we’re talking about anyway. Not that I’d spend $188 for the same shitty prone to breaking design anyway when there is a superior aftermarket part available for $50. > [@sweet89s13](#): > > You dummy can’t you read? Earlier in the thread it is stated on ls1 forums the main broken shift knob/lever threads are from b&m. Learn to read dickface. Um, no. The broken part is from my bone stock car. As you should be able to see in the pictures it’s the shifter arm. The B&M would be a complete replacement unit but after driving my buddies GTO with a B&M I wouldn’t want one due to it’s very limited side to side motion. Doing a redline 3rd to 2nd shift on the track would be way too easy. ---
**Author:** ![sweet89s13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweet89s13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sweet89s13)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/37 "2009-08-18T07:19:32Z")
I know yours is stock. It was stated That on ls1 forums it was the b&m that was more faulty not the stock. Yea your right my gm epc4 is wrong the picture and the part #(including shift knob) where the shaft from the knob to connect the the shifter kit #92147175 (725.00) which is bolted direct to the transmission. YEA im wrong. I can fax you the pics with corresponding part numbers if you wish. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/38 "2009-08-18T07:28:52Z")
^ I’m good. I’m going with the Lou’s Short Stick, just waiting to see if a guy at [ls1gto.com](http://ls1gto.com) can hook me up with his LSS that works with the stock knob since that version is out of stock at the only place that sells them. If not I’m going to get the version that works with aftermarket knobs. ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/39 "2009-08-18T09:00:34Z")
Ouch. My pops did the same in his Cobra Jet. ---
**Author:** ![Southtowns27](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/southtowns27/32/5002_2.png) [@Southtowns27](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Southtowns27)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195/40 "2009-08-18T11:03:41Z")
The vicegrips will work so well you’ll never have to actually fix it. And turn them 180\* as was already mentioned. lol. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-make-it-hard-to-defend-you-gm/72195.md?page=3)