# Your Health and LIFE May be at Risk for Sake of being PC **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 1, 2008, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759 "2008-02-01T04:48:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/81 "2008-02-01T09:59:06Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Generally I bet the answers are pretty truthful. If you’re there trying to help people by giving blood chances are you aren’t going to lie on the survey that is designed to keep the blood supply safe. If you’re getting paid for that donation that’s a whole other story, but we’re talking about voluntary blood drives here. Not saying it doesn’t happen, but it would be rare. Again, you do what you can to LESSEN the risk. You socially screen first, then medically screen since your medical screening is only about 98%. 1 million units of blood with a 98% catch rate isn’t going to cut it, so you screen socially so hopefully most of the blood that makes it to the lab testing already has a higher chance of being safe. > > So if you’re saying admitted risky sexual behavior is grounds for being banned from giving blood, how can you argue that admitted homosexuals should be allowed to donate? No one can argue that homosexual sex carries an increase risk of HIV transmission, the same as anal sex between a male and a female, which is also one of the risky activities that gets you denied as a donor. > > No, not all homosexuals have aids. :duh: Just like not all 16 year olds with fast cars get in accidents. But the facts are they both are in a higher risk pool, and that’s why one group can’t give blood and the other has high insurance rates. i’m on your side on this one. I think that anyone that does the risky behaviors should be banned. I’d rather get blood from a gay guy that only does oral than a girl that is into rear entry or a guy that shares needles, but the policy makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/82 "2008-02-01T10:27:25Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > **Generally I bet the answers are pretty truthful.** They don’t ask if you’re a fag. They ask if you’ve had sexual intercourse with a fag. I I’ve lied. I knew I was clean, and I sure as hell am gay, so I told the cunt that I hadn’t. Why? I wanted to help. Since I can’t befriend another gay and feel good about myself, unless it’s a gay that listens to Cascada (they need all the help they can get), giving blood is a great alternative. If safety is the top priority then they should only be able to accept donations from people who have been tested recently. The whole point of the original post was to point out the safety of blood donations, and how being “politically correct” may transcend the safety people who accept blood. So why are you putting your faith into a questionnairre if what you really care about is safety? It’s moronic because there are better alternatives. Nice comma splice by the way. I’m the sweetest gay around. Also, I don’t give a fuck if people “discriminate”. I hate the opposite - treating gay people like they are fine china (and the gays that gobble this up). Ugh. ---
**Author:** ![d3x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@d3x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d3x)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/83 "2008-02-01T10:44:37Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > lol, you assume that it all boils down to bigotry? i dont assume…its blatently obvious. if government dictated policy based on statistics then all blacks would be put in jail because they are more likely to commit a violent crime and all whites would have their children taken away cause they are more likely to kill their child due to neglect. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/84 "2008-02-01T10:46:53Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Generally I bet the answers are pretty truthful. If you’re there trying to help people by giving blood chances are you aren’t going to lie on the survey that is designed to keep the blood supply safe. If you’re getting paid for that donation that’s a whole other story, but we’re talking about voluntary blood drives here. Not saying it doesn’t happen, but it would be rare. Again, you do what you can to LESSEN the risk. You socially screen first, then medically screen since your medical screening is only about 98%. 1 million units of blood with a 98% catch rate isn’t going to cut it, so you screen socially so hopefully most of the blood that makes it to the lab testing already has a higher chance of being safe. > > So if you’re saying admitted risky sexual behavior is grounds for being banned from giving blood, how can you argue that admitted homosexuals should be allowed to donate? No one can argue that homosexual sex carries an increase risk of HIV transmission, the same as anal sex between a male and a female, which is also one of the risky activities that gets you denied as a donor. > > No, not all homosexuals have aids. :duh: Just like not all 16 year olds with fast cars get in accidents. But the facts are they both are in a higher risk pool, and that’s why one group can’t give blood and the other has high insurance rates. Meh, you had me until the end. High risk activities rule you out. If you do not participate in a high risk activity, then there is not a reason to rule out the entire population. The criteria are the same for herto and homosexuals alike in my mind. If you have unprotected same sex intercourse, or have multiple partners / promiscuity, or if you have unprotected opposite sex intercourse you are exposing yourself to the same high risks. You’re all out. Being a homosexual itself is not “high risk” in and of itself. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/85 "2008-02-01T10:48:02Z")
> [@RedGoober4Life](#): > > I hate the opposite - treating gay people like they are fine china 👏 > (and the gays that gobble this up). > :mamoru: ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/86 "2008-02-01T10:51:08Z")
Hrm, I seemed to have lost a post. I’m more arguing the arguments, rather than the end point. Some of the people in this thread suck though. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/87 "2008-02-01T10:52:17Z")
> [@RedGoober4Life](#): > > Also, I don’t give a fuck if people “discriminate”. I hate the opposite - treating gay people like they are fine china (and the gays that gobble this up). Ugh. Didn’t see this until it was quoted because you are on the IL, but I wholeheartedly agree. I think treating anyone different in an effort to “reverse” the discrimination or prevent it is fucking moronic. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/88 "2008-02-01T10:52:42Z")
> [@walter](#): > > Meh, you had me until the end. > > High risk activities rule you out. If you do not participate in a high risk activity, then there is not a reason to rule out the entire population. The criteria are the same for herto and homosexuals alike in my mind. If you have unprotected same sex intercourse, or have multiple partners / promiscuity, or if you have unprotected opposite sex intercourse you are exposing yourself to the same high risks. You’re all out. Being a homosexual itself is not “high risk” in and of itself. i gotta say you nailed it on this one :tup: ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/89 "2008-02-01T11:22:25Z")
> [@d3x](#): > > that does not change the fact its discrimination and only closed minded, uneducated assholes actually believe in this policy. > > so what, should we only allow middle aged people to drive because young adults and seniors are more likely to get in accidents? or should we execute seniors because they are more likely to get sick and spread it to others? or better yet, should we not allow white suburban meatheads to own muscle cars because they are more likely to be an assclown behind the wheel and hurt someone else in the process? I never said anything about what they did. I was elaborating on the fact that it is true that nearly 1/2 of HIV positive males contract it from homosexual conduct. That is just a statistic number. No discrimination in it. ---
**Author:** ![d3x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@d3x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d3x)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/90 "2008-02-01T11:52:47Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > I never said anything about what they did. I was elaborating on the fact that it is true that nearly 1/2 of HIV positive males contract it from homosexual conduct. That is just a statistic number. No discrimination in it. i wasnt referring to you as an asshole for stating a statistic. i quoted you because the statistic didn’t change the fact the policy was discriminating. ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/91 "2008-02-02T18:20:10Z")
> [@chino](#): > > ok you fucking cock sucker, if HALF of the people got it from being GAY, then the other HALF were comprised of… NOT GAY? YOU FUCKING IMBECILE? FUCKING **LOL!** [SIZE=2] Put down your blocks for a second so you can concentrate. Its Half of HIV infected people not half the population of the United States you fucking retard. Half of the people that _ **have HIV** _ got it from male to male contact (_that means gay_)… From this you can infer that male GAYS have a VERY high risk of carrying HIV. Half the US does not have aids. The SAMPLE group that is giving blood is the Population of the US. The probability of a random person giving blood, having HIV is low. The probability of a GAY MALE giving blood, having HIV is HIGH. u fail [/SIZE] ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/92 "2008-02-02T18:29:33Z")
> [@d3x](#): > > so wait…after taking a shot at me like a 5th grader you are now too mature to answer my post? so now your too grownup to lash out so you can feel better about yourself? _sigh_ You can’t even follow along and remember your own train of thought… How do you expect to understand mine? It works like this. You take a shot, I return it ten fold and cut you to pieces. Action - Reaction **ACTION** : > [@d3x](#): > > [HIV/AIDS - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS) > > even Wikipedia thinks your a douchebag **REACTION** : > [@Violator](#): > > YES! the 3 second wikipedia search expert to the rescue. Because Wikipedia is the end all, knowledge base. > Thanks for the peanut gallery input dumb fuck. Go back to doing something productive like collecting carts from the parking lot at tops. **Unclassified** :Wahhh, u r mean BITCH Whining (when you yourself initiated the exchange) > [@d3x](#): > > does making immature shots at someone you know absolutly nothing about improve your obvious lack of self esteem? what are you 12? > > i have a hard time comprehending how people as prejudiced as you exist in this country. where did you get your education? catholic school? Stop acting like a dumb fuck and you wont be treated as one. Don’t throw insults and you wont be insulted in return. Pretty simple ps: don’t whine ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/93 "2008-02-02T18:33:30Z")
> [@d3x](#): > > **this isnt about whether gay men are more likely to contract AIDS.** its about an obvious case of discrimination. this isnt some horse shit PC situation, like public servents barking about saggy pants or balls hanging off SUV’s. its just another example of Christian policy in our government. this isnt what the USA is about. all your ancestors fled to this country to escape the same exact discrimination that exists at these blood drives. That is _EXACLTY_ what it is about… and they are. I have been going through all kinds of statistics. We can argue the details of the percentages all day long but it all is all still comes down to the fact that gay men are significantly more likely to contract HIV. Its also amusing how you are comparing issues of **LIFE and DEATH HEALTH** to stupid shit like social trends. That shows a serious lack of responsibility and common sense. ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/94 "2008-02-02T18:42:55Z")
> [@chino](#): > > my follow up question to this idiot circus is, how the fuck do they prove you are gay in the first place. > > sit down to give blood: > > Doctor: “hey man, you a fag?” > dude: “no way” > Doctor: “no seriously, are you gay?” > dude: “no…” > Doctor: “ok lets do this” > > great response, douchebag. difference between “gay” and drug users, is there is a fucking proven test, you have drugs in your system, track marks and other items. :bloated: Watching you argue a point is like watching a 3 legged dog try to hump someones leg. The OBJECTIVE of people collecting blood to SHARE with others is to make sure its as SAFE as possible. IE- eliminate as many chances for infection as humanly possible. If it is known that a certain group has a very high probability for carrying a disease then that group SHOULD be eliminated from participating… to reduce probability of infection. There don’t have to be analytical tests for everything. They just have to do THE BEST THEY CAN to keep the blood supply safe. That includes simply asking someone “do you have sex with men?” , “Do you have HIV” , Do you have Diabetes?" “Are you Anemic?” Any intelligent person would not give 2 shits about making anyone feel bad or discriminating when it comes to public health. Disease control is more important then any of that. God forbid a untreatable epidemic (like the black plague) breaks out and we have stupid fucks like you saying “don’t discriminate against the sick people” let them out of quarantine ---
**Author:** ![9ONA3OOZX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9ona3oozx/32/7242_2.png) [@9ONA3OOZX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9ONA3OOZX)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/95 "2008-02-02T18:44:51Z")
dude…calm down… ---
**Author:** ![AFhockey31](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afhockey31/32/5086_2.png) [@AFhockey31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AFhockey31)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/96 "2008-02-02T18:59:55Z")
lets just say it like it is… youre affraid of catching the gay… ![http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i91/snipers31/caught_the_gay1.jpg](http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i91/snipers31/caught_the_gay1.jpg) ![http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i91/snipers31/Caught_The_Gay.jpg](http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i91/snipers31/Caught_The_Gay.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/97 "2008-02-02T19:32:00Z")
> [@90NA300ZX](#): > > dude…calm down… way to fuck up the experiment. i wanted to see if he would post 30 in a row to fill page 4. ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/98 "2008-02-02T19:49:13Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > way to fuck up the experiment. i wanted to see if he would post 30 in a row to fill page 4. :loopie: ---
**Author:** ![9ONA3OOZX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9ona3oozx/32/7242_2.png) [@9ONA3OOZX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9ONA3OOZX)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/99 "2008-02-02T19:50:48Z")
if you’re really that angry, and still live around the block from me…i can come over and let you punch the Civic…always cheers me up 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bucker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bucker/32/7379_2.png) [@Bucker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bucker)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759/100 "2008-02-02T20:06:07Z")
I think these are more worried about contracting “gay” than AIDS. They are worried about the homo blood getting put into them. Ignorant fucks. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-health-and-life-may-be-at-risk-for-sake-of-being-pc/42759.md?page=6)